Can Clara meet herself?

[Doctorwhovian]

Okay, we know there's a lot of Clara splinters through time in the series, so what if the original Clara meets one of them?


It's being done in the current Doctor Who magazine comic, but could it work on TV? As we've seen a few times already in the new series, putting two versions of the same actor of course is easy to do these days (and I think a relatively inexpensive effect-heck, even the classic series did it a few times without always resorting to doubles, such as in Arc of Infinity).

Problem is that Clara's splinter purpose is to save the Doctor from the Great Intelligence's messing around with his timeline, and I think that particular timeline "corpse" probably only covers up to Smith (Since it's probably his Doctor that died at Trenzalore, in an alternate future of Time of the Doctor seen in Name of the Doctor, if that makes any sense.) So how to do so without utilizing a former Doctor? Stock footage is on option, ala Back to the Future II, with Clara possibly meeting Oswin the Dalekized Clara or the Snowmen version of Clara in an earlier 2005-now adventure.


Can't see it quite working as well with the classic series. While we saw bits of that kind of thing in Name of the Doctor (and a bit in "Day" and some other series), the picture quality of a lot of the older serials is quite different from the newer ones, hence the extremely limited use in "Name", or other instances being partially obscured or done using body doubles. So nothing can be done to the extent of Deep Space Nine's Tribbles unfortunately.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Technically there is no reason why it could bot happen. The Claras all lived fully developed lives for the most part from what we know.
Their brief moments of saving the Doctor at one point or the other was only a fraction of their existences.
But the story needs to be good to actually do it and I don't think they will waste Clara's remaining time as a companion on that.

 

[Allyn Gibson]

Amy meets a Clara fragment in Summer Falls and Other Stories, the collection of 3 ebooks.

I haven't been reading the DWM strip, but I suppose I should now.

 

[Ithekro]

Be an odd way to switch character without switching actors. Don't like the main Clara Oswald, but do like Jenna Coleman? Change Claras. Get one from another part of the timeline after she's saved one of the earlier Doctors (without having died this time around), and go run off with her. Or have the main Clara die in the shard's place and have the shard of Clara, stay with the Doctor.

Oswin Oswald and Clara Oswin Oswals were all sorts of awesome. Clara Oswald has be less awesome at times than her shards. But sometimes she more awesome. I did like that her shards could out talk the Eleventh Doctor and were both clever.

 

[Doctorwhovian]

I do remember there was a fan theory a few months back that Missy was possibly a Clara shard that went bad, possibly because the Mary poppins look was also kind of used for Clara in that (And Poppins had the same job too!)

 

[Allyn Gibson]

I do remember there was a fan theory a few months back that Missy was possibly a Clara shard that went bad, possibly because the Mary poppins look was also kind of used for Clara in that (And Poppins had the same job too!)

I remember another fan theory that the Dalek in "Into the Dalek" was the Dalek Oswin who had somehow escaped the Asylum.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

"Can Clara meet herself?" - Considering how mind-boggling it was in Time/Space when Amy met herself (cue Rory's drooling), I sure hope so.

 

[Ithekro]

Clara once had to share a bed with herself due to the TARDIS messing with her and hiding her bedroom, then forcing all the Clara's that left to look for it to come back at the same time.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

She kind of alredy did in Journey to the Center of the TARDIS, now that I think about it.

 

[Timewalker]

Clara once had to share a bed with herself due to the TARDIS messing with her and hiding her bedroom, then forcing all the Clara's that left to look for it to come back at the same time.

Okay, that was sort of cute. The TARDIS sounded like R2D2, though.

 

[StCoop]

Amy meets a Clara fragment in Summer Falls and Other Stories, the collection of 3 ebooks.

I did find it funny that the this was the only place that ever properly explained that they were all real individuals who lead full lives and didn't exist just to save the Doctor.

 

[Sindatur]

Amy meets a Clara fragment in Summer Falls and Other Stories, the collection of 3 ebooks.

I did find it funny that the this was the only place that ever properly explained that they were all real individuals who lead full lives and didn't exist just to save the Doctor.

That wasn't clear to you just from the episodes?

Yes, we saw a couple of fragments die, but, it was pretty clear to me, that they all had full independent lives of their own, and didn't just disappear after their job was done, if they were lucky enough not to die in that saving mission, I had no problem imagining that they would live a full complete life after their brief intersection with the Doctor.

 

[Ar-Pharazon]

One could wonder if, once the Doctor's timeline was reset, the Clara fragments might cease to exist in the first place, since the Doctor's timeline was OK and there would be no need for Clara to go into the Doctor's timeline.

Temporal mechanics 101, try to keep up.

 

[RoJoHen]

One could wonder if, once the Doctor's timeline was reset, the Clara fragments might cease to exist in the first place, since the Doctor's timeline was OK and there would be no need for Clara to go into the Doctor's timeline.

Temporal mechanics 101, try to keep up.

But the whole point is that the Doctor's timeline is not okay. Clara exists to save the Doctor from the Great Intelligence, to fix everything he screwed up. It always happened, and it always will.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Yeah. it's a predestination paradox.
The Doctor met the Clara shards first before the prime Clara. it had always happened.
But there is reason to think that there are no more shards intersecting with the Doctor's life once he regenerates on Trenzalore as that wipes out the access point for the GI to get mess with his timeline in the first place.

The way timetravel works in Dw probably means that from his and Clara's point of view it still hapennend, as they lived through it, but from now on they can't ever meet any of the shards ever again, because in the overall timeline they travel in now those never existed... really makes the head hurt!
XD

 

[StCoop]

Amy meets a Clara fragment in Summer Falls and Other Stories, the collection of 3 ebooks.

I did find it funny that the this was the only place that ever properly explained that they were all real individuals who lead full lives and didn't exist just to save the Doctor.

That wasn't clear to you just from the episodes?

I think it would have been clearer if there had been variations in appearance and/or age. As it was it felt like she was this temporary presence whose job was simply to die in the Doctor's place.

 

[Sindatur]

I did find it funny that the this was the only place that ever properly explained that they were all real individuals who lead full lives and didn't exist just to save the Doctor.

That wasn't clear to you just from the episodes?

I think it would have been clearer if there had been variations in appearance and/or age. As it was it felt like she was this temporary presence whose job was simply to die in the Doctor's place.

True, but, we did have a prime example of one who didn't die, and was in no danger of dying (The one who guided the Doctor to the right TARDIS)

 

[Ithekro]

To go off the deep end a bit, if Jenna Coleman became the Doctor (actual), would she keep Clara's personality, or would she be a mashup of the older Doctors as well?

I can imagine that after the shock starts to fade on the Doctor not only becoming a woman, just also having a face he knows, look into the mirror and a piece of Eleventh's personality comes out, "I'm an Oswald now. Oswalds are cool".