And Suliban, Remans, and Voth. Not to mention Starfleet, who have been known to use cloaking tech on no less than four occasions. (Not counting use of the Defiant.)
Breen ass-pull?
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Remans, oh the fish guys from Nemesis, well that's Romulan right? That movie is so bad I can barely remember though XD. And I totally had forgotten about the Suliban's cloaking device until today, weird since I was just watching the pilot of ENT (stopped half-way through though). I don't remember the Voth.
As for Starfleet, yeah okay I forgot that too, some episode at the end of TNG about a Federation cloaking device. But other than that, as far as I know, it's Klingons and Romulans. Not Cardassians, or Borg, or Dominion or whatever who could certainly use it...
As for Starfleet, yeah okay I forgot that too, some episode at the end of TNG about a Federation cloaking device. But other than that, as far as I know, it's Klingons and Romulans. Not Cardassians, or Borg, or Dominion or whatever who could certainly use it...
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I thought the Dominion did have cloaking devices. Wasn't there a whole plot point in the build up to the war about how the Wormhole kept opening and closing mysteriously, so they knew the Dominion was sending ships into the AQ but they didn't know how many? The Jem'Hadar even have (biological?) personal cloaking capability.
The Cardassians I've always suspected were a bit less technologically advanced than most major empires in the show.
The Borg are a major oversight, though. Maybe they just don't care if they lose ships? They should certainly have assimilated a cloaking device at some point.
You know, I always thought they did have cloaking devices in the first episode with them, I think the last episode of the second season of DS9, but I recently rewatched it and apparently not. That episode you're referring to is the one with the coup attempt on Earth by disgrunted Starfleet officers, and they were faking the whole wormhole thing somehow to get Earth all riled up about a possible invasion (all after a terrorist attack from the Dominion I believe). Fun fact, the episode was originally going to have a civil war on Earth and Vulcans leaving the Federation. I wonder how the Trek universe would have went if that happened.
But they're a powerful empire and they even use Romulan cloaking devices once :P
They sneakingly use time travel to try to assimilate Earth, why not just cloak a cube or a 100 and conquer Earth? XD
It seems highly unlikely that Section 31 wouldn't use cloaking technology as well!
The Feds clearly understand and can build cloaking technology, they just agreed not to use it.
It actually makes a lot of sense, if the Tomed incident was the result of massive Fed expansion making the romulans feel overpowered and outgunned, then making a treaty that gives them a perceived tactical advantage would be a good way to keep the peace.
Indeed. The Treaty of Algeron, in fact.... or the production team feeling that the Federation should not use them and coming up with the only in universe reason they could think of as to why they wouldn't... s'all the same thing.
I suspect Section 31 actually had several cloaked ships that they used for covert operations, but kept it a secret from Starfleet just as much as powers outside the Federation.
For that matter, the Pegasus was probably a Section 31 operation and Pressman just said it was Starfleet Intelligence so he wouldn't have to admit Section 31's existence.
Every time i see this title, i think it's either some kind of alien torture method, or a "pleasurable" activity i am not interested in participating in.
That's how i feel too...and one brought in simply to "raise the stakes" against the Federation. "our heroes".
waitwaitwaitwait...
The Breen weren't pulled out of anyones rectal organs. This is a simple case of plagarism.
That's how i feel too...and one brought in simply to "raise the stakes" against the Federation. "our heroes".
...despite its rampant popularity, that particular thread keeps getting closed down with cries of decency and family and that's not biologically possible and blahblahblah...
But that was just guesswork by Spock. He appeared to be in error in many respects; this might have been one of them.
As for Breen cloaks of invisibility never being seen... Well, d'oh!
I suspect that only Klingons and Romulans are stupid enough to let their invisible ships be spotted by somebody who survives to tell the tale. Sensible operators would be more careful. But the Breen are infamous for their sneaky surprise attacks in "Hero Worship", sort of; having cloaks would facilitate that.
Timo Saloniemi
I don't know they seemed to only have that plasma weapon thing as weapons for the ship seeing as they never fire anything else and that sounds like something that needs a lot of power to fire, so they probably wouldn't have enough power to fire it and remain cloaked.
Plus the device was probably a prototype so it probably did suck a lot of power from a relatively small ship along with the whole not being able to completely hide the ship thing.
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