Breaking Stereotypes is a Trek Foundation

[tesral]

I don't think it would be stereotypical at all for the protagonist to be promoted to captain. Star Trek has never had a protagonist before, and they don't have a lot of people get promoted to captain. And as far as I know, it's not a common trope in other fiction.

FYI:
They usually are the Captain. The protagonist is the point of view character or characters. Sisko was promoted to Captain. You can have more than one protagonist, and or antagonist.

The three classic forms of drama: Man vs man, man vs himself, man vs nature. The protagonist is on the left side of the equation, and the antagonist on the right. Knowing which you are dealing with is a a great help in understanding what you are trying to write.

 

[StarMan]

If there is an Enterprise in the 32nd century - what is it? The NCC-1701-Z?

At the rate they were churning thru them in the 23rd / 24th centuries, we'd be up to about the Enterprise AK by the 32nd century, if you were to go by the spreadsheet column naming conventions.

 

[Tribble Threat]

I see I misunderstood what Dryson was saying. Yes, if a black woman becomes a captain, that would be a step forward in the Star Trek franchise, and Star Trek is often ahead of its time.

 

[fireproof78]

It's been a long time since I would consider Trek ahead of its time.

 

[tesral]

It's been a long time since I would consider Trek ahead of its time.

TV does not take risks anymore. You cannot be ahead of your time without risks.

 

[Shawnster]

I see I misunderstood what Dryson was saying. Yes, if a black woman becomes a captain, that would be a step forward in the Star Trek franchise, and Star Trek is often ahead of its time.

We saw a black woman captain of the Yorktown in TVH, and

Spoiler

another in the last episode of Discovery season 3

 

[137th Gebirg]

^^^ She was actually the captain of the Saratoga - the Miranda class that was first to be disabled by the probe in the very beginning of the movie.

The Yorktown was captained by the Indian fellow who talked about building a "makeshift solar sail" to get home. In the "soft canon", this was the ship that was renamed the Enterprise-A just in time to be seen at the end of the movie. I guess they were still having problems with the ship from the probe influence by the time the events ST5 happened.

 

[Bornin1980something]

Having Burnham become captain of the 32nd century Enterprise would be stereotypical fanwank.

I'm a bit tired of the Enterprise fetish and kind of hope the name has been retired by the 32nd century. At the very least if they have to name check it use the name for a station, some other type of facility, or even a shuttle craft instead of a ship.

I don't like the name Enterprise. The best name in the franchise is the Intrepid Class USS Voyager.

 

[1001001]

We saw a black woman captain of the Yorktown in TVH, and

Spoiler

another in the last episode of Discovery season 3

Geordi’s mom was Captain of the USS Hera.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Geordi’s mom was Captain of the USS Hera.

And Captain Tryla Scott, the Captain off the USS Renegade

 

[somebuddyX]

At the rate they were churning thru them in the 23rd / 24th centuries, we'd be up to about the Enterprise AK by the 32nd century, if you were to go by the spreadsheet column naming conventions.

They binned the 1701 number and letter combo and just gave it a new numberplate to match the other 32nd century ships: NCC-321701

 

[Court_Vince]

I guess in terms of a black woman being captain, its more of step forward with Discovery since she's the main character, while the other characters listed were mainly one-off characters.

 

[Shawnster]

And Mariner's Mom, Captain Carol Freeman of the USS Cerritos

 

[Court_Vince]

And Mariner's Mom, Captain Carol Freeman of the USS Cerritos

Thanks for reminding me, havent seen any LWD.