Braga simply did not watch the show
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The Buck stops with Braga.
Sometimes he was in charge, and when he wasn't in charge, whoever was in charge had so little personality that we all still thought he was in charge, but if his minions did something wrong, it's not his job to catch them on it at the last minute and fix everything, it's his job to get persecuted for hiring shit minions, and that's what it means to be the overboss of something so intensely massive, you're just there to be a fallyguy, a valve if you will to clot blame and ridicule before it gets to Berman who was asleep for the last 5 years.
I'm enjoying 24 this season.
Nothing to yell at Braga there, so as with his early TNG, when he wants to do a good job, when he's allowed to do a good job, he's not absolutely dire.
Sometimes he was in charge, and when he wasn't in charge, whoever was in charge had so little personality that we all still thought he was in charge, but if his minions did something wrong, it's not his job to catch them on it at the last minute and fix everything, it's his job to get persecuted for hiring shit minions, and that's what it means to be the overboss of something so intensely massive, you're just there to be a fallyguy, a valve if you will to clot blame and ridicule before it gets to Berman who was asleep for the last 5 years.
I'm enjoying 24 this season.
Nothing to yell at Braga there, so as with his early TNG, when he wants to do a good job, when he's allowed to do a good job, he's not absolutely dire.
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Your opinion isn't supported by any factual knowledge.
An episode of Frasier actually addressed and retconned that: when a visiting Sam expresses confusion on meeting a living Martin Crane, Frasier explains the fictional dead scientist as being revenge because he and Marty had been in a fight and Martin had hung up on him. It was funny and meta-funny all at once.
You've been explained all of this before, by both I & Anwar no less than 3 weeks ago. Which is why you tried snide by calling me "Anwar's kid".
He wrote Unimatrix Zero and was working at the show when "One" and "Waking Moments" were produced
Then why ask the question if you don't want to hear the answers?
You edited your post to include all that script rewriting stuff after I had posted my own response, and is there really any need for the constant rolly eye smilies? Its incredibly obnoxious.
I still don't believe that there is any excuse for such huge continuity errors in any show, especially not when the writer of the script is also the executive producer and has been involved in the show the entire time. Feel free to make all the excuses you want to defend your hero, but I stand by my own opinion.
Crying editing foul is just a sad counter argument.Apparently.
I'm reluctant to say this, but you're right. Bonus point if you can name the lazily titled episode.
It still doesn't explain what Martin was doing in Boston as a piano player that one time, or how Frasier failed to recognise him. I blame Braga for that oversight.
Now now, be polite Ja-... You_Guyz. Sorry, I forgot your name there for a second. (This could be a lot of fun.
)exodus isn't a bad guy, just very difficult to argue against, much to his credit.
Wrong. I do know how television is produced. That's why I said it. Part of a story editor's job is continuity.
I think my most huge gaffaw watching Voyager was when janeway finally got word from the AQ and she said "And we have to thank this "Barclay" person whoever he is." And I'm screaming "PROJECTIONS! PROJECTIONS!" Whereupon I have to wonder why Dwight let that get though to production since unless he's a drinker and forgot being on Voyager before in season 2 or he's one of those actors who only reads the scenes he's in... GODS!
I just didn't feel a sense of continuity from episode to episode like i did with the first couple seasons of Smallville or Roswell which I've viewed recently, but firstrun Voyager was being directly compared by me to Babylon 5 which dealt with the rise and fall of empires and personalties, which branded it a completely different animal.
I just didn't feel a sense of continuity from episode to episode like i did with the first couple seasons of Smallville or Roswell which I've viewed recently, but firstrun Voyager was being directly compared by me to Babylon 5 which dealt with the rise and fall of empires and personalties, which branded it a completely different animal.
Thank you, I appreciate the compliment.
I didn't take it as smart writing. Smart writing would have something like, "I've lost two brothers in my life. I was lucky; I got one back."
Frankly, I think you're both right.
There are folks here that are aware of how TV production works, educated themselves on it and do wish to pass on that knowledge.
While there are others that don't care in anyway, shape or fashion about the business of TV but insist they know it all without doing research on anything.
Being semantically fickle here, but Kirk just said, "I lost a brother...".
Oh, and the Cheers episode was "The Show Where Sam Comes Back". A pity that while retconning Frasier's dead scientist father out of the picture, nobody thought to write a scene where Sam says to Marty, "Hey, you look like that guy who showed up in season 11 of Cheers".
Imagine if Law and Order, The X-Files, or Star Trek shows had to make a meta-joke every time an actor popped up for his or hers 2nd, 3rd, 4th... role in the show!A pity that while retconning Frasier's dead scientist father out of the picture, nobody thought to write a scene where Sam says to Marty, "Hey, you look like that guy who showed up in season 11 of Cheers".
Voyager had negative continuity after a while, which frankly seemed by design. Lines like the one explaining you can't shoot in warp in "Fury" are typical of this logic: The past is whatever we need it to be for this episode. It will be ignored or retooled to fit the demands of the moment. So Janeway is made to fidget with her communicator and we're told it's a habit even though she never did it before or since in "Dark Frontier" because a writer thought that'd be a nice touch, and so on.
The episode does also address the fact Frasier never mentioned his brother on Cheers: He probably did, but people tended to tune him out. Sam even remarks that he looks a little like Frasier did before, er, his many years of being a barfly on Cheers, which was one of the rationales for casting David Hyde Pierce.
They just had a field day of meta jokes in that episode.
Also I blame Braga for hitching up Janeway and Sam Malone. What was he thinking?
... I am an unreasonably big Cheers/Frasier fan. Does it show?
"The One Were Sam Comes Back". Points for consistency; all the Frasier episodes where a single Cheers regular returns have this title (even Lilith's first appearance.)I'm reluctant to say this, but you're right. Bonus point if you can name the lazily titled episode.
The episode does also address the fact Frasier never mentioned his brother on Cheers: He probably did, but people tended to tune him out. Sam even remarks that he looks a little like Frasier did before, er, his many years of being a barfly on Cheers, which was one of the rationales for casting David Hyde Pierce.
They just had a field day of meta jokes in that episode.
Or when Roz was a reporter.
Also I blame Braga for hitching up Janeway and Sam Malone. What was he thinking?
... I am an unreasonably big Cheers/Frasier fan. Does it show?
Don't take it too seriously, I mainly said it to annoy You_Guyz.Thank you, I appreciate the compliment.
Ding ding ding!
Congratulations, you get a point! Once you reach 1,200 points you can claim a signed picture of me with my arm around Tony Danza. The picture will be a photoshop.I'm sorry, you were too late. But keep at it and one day that picture might be yours.
Oh, I don't remember that one. I bow to your knowledge of the Cheersverse.
I blame Braga for the fact that Frasier's first wife, Nanette, had plastic surgery and vocal restructuring between her appearance on Cheers and her appearance on Frasier. The list of this man's sins is endless, I wouldn't be surprised if he was responsible for the missing year on The West Wing.
