BLSSDWLF's TOS Enterprise WIP
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That website is great, I dip into it now and again but thanks for pointing out that picture. What it doesn't show however is how many tanks are against the wall opposite the mesh, which is kinda useful when repositioning that top right console which was in my previous photo. However, from various shots in the episode it seems there are at least 4 tanks, so just for fun here is my own quick-and-dirty mockup to show where I think everything goes:
I'm still not happy with that top right console, but it seems the only way to reconcile these two shots:
For a "quick-and-dirty mockup" Mytran that's pretty darn close I'd say!
It's "quick-and-dirty" because
(a) I'm just shuffling around the original drawing and
(b) I've got no way to test the "over the shoulder" shot to see how far away the corner console is from the rest of the room.
Now, if only there were someone with a Lightwave-built version of the set...
(a) I'm just shuffling around the original drawing and
(b) I've got no way to test the "over the shoulder" shot to see how far away the corner console is from the rest of the room.
Now, if only there were someone with a Lightwave-built version of the set...
A slight tangent while re-calibrating previous scenes...
Matched shuttle scale to what's on screen. Then scaled up flight deck to match and applied scale multiplier to overall ship. So if I had to fit the flight deck in I would need to scale the TOS Enterprise up to 348.5m. Not bad, still smaller than the 355m Enterprise-refit estimate I had earlier
Matched shuttle scale to what's on screen. Then scaled up flight deck to match and applied scale multiplier to overall ship. So if I had to fit the flight deck in I would need to scale the TOS Enterprise up to 348.5m. Not bad, still smaller than the 355m Enterprise-refit estimate I had earlier
Nice to see the ol' shuttlebay again blssdwlf as it is one of the few things we can actually scale the ship by!
I seem to remember you were previously using Warped9's shuttle design (approx 26'), but if I read you correctly the most recent renders are using the 21' studio prop, is that correct?
I assume you determined the scale-up by using the width of the shuttlebay, since length is less of an issue in the secondary hull (please correct me if I'm wrong)
I find the figure of 348.5 (1143') very interesting, since it matches so closely the 1177' length I got from an experiment I did a while ago of how the shuttlebay set would fit into MJ's famous cutaway:
(I ignored the fantail section as it does not match the Enterprise model)
I seem to remember you were previously using Warped9's shuttle design (approx 26'), but if I read you correctly the most recent renders are using the 21' studio prop, is that correct?
I assume you determined the scale-up by using the width of the shuttlebay, since length is less of an issue in the secondary hull (please correct me if I'm wrong)
I find the figure of 348.5 (1143') very interesting, since it matches so closely the 1177' length I got from an experiment I did a while ago of how the shuttlebay set would fit into MJ's famous cutaway:
(I ignored the fantail section as it does not match the Enterprise model)
@Mytran - Fascinating (your experiment ) Yep, using the people in "Journey to Babel" as a reference I scaled the shuttle down to ~21' and then with the shuttle as a reference scaled up the shuttlebay. Now I have two shuttlebays ( the 947' and the 1143' versions) and I do like the idea of more secondary hull room 
) Yep, using the people in "Journey to Babel" as a reference I scaled the shuttle down to ~21' and then with the shuttle as a reference scaled up the shuttlebay. Now I have two shuttlebays ( the 947' and the 1143' versions) and I do like the idea of more secondary hull room Ok, not a 3D update on the Big E but something I've been thinking of drawing for a while. It's the beginnings of the warp-equivalent of a nautical chart that is specific to TOS only. This drawing is a cross-section.
Warp 1 as 1c is still iffy for me as there are no time-distance-speed examples to verify against so that might get scrubbed or become variable as well.
Warp 1 as 1c is still iffy for me as there are no time-distance-speed examples to verify against so that might get scrubbed or become variable as well.
For the detail-oriented observers of TOS...
Did anyone notice this odd scene in "By Any Other Name" where the bridge main viewer doesn't appear in front of the helm station?
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x22hd/byanyothernamehd0858.jpg
Or in a few episodes, the helm station doesn't always align with the viewer? It's happened in a few different episodes so it isn't an isolated incident
Just throwing this out here... Could it be theorized that the helm/captain's section is on a swivel platform?
Did anyone notice this odd scene in "By Any Other Name" where the bridge main viewer doesn't appear in front of the helm station?
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x22hd/byanyothernamehd0858.jpg
Or in a few episodes, the helm station doesn't always align with the viewer? It's happened in a few different episodes so it isn't an isolated incident
Just throwing this out here... Could it be theorized that the helm/captain's section is on a swivel platform?
You've SOLVED it! You've SOLVED the thirty-six degree problem! This... This is the greatest day of my life! (Well, ok, maybe not that.)For the detail-oriented observers of TOS...
Did anyone notice this odd scene in "By Any Other Name" where the bridge main viewer doesn't appear in front of the helm station?
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x22hd/byanyothernamehd0858.jpg
Or in a few episodes, the helm station doesn't always align with the viewer? It's happened in a few different episodes so it isn't an isolated incident
Just throwing this out here... Could it be theorized that the helm/captain's section is on a swivel platform?
Not sure about the Spock's Brain shot. That looks more like a camera angle to me. So far.
Interesting work, but I have to say...
You are intelligent but not experienced. Your tactics indicate two-dimensional thinking.
You are intelligent but not experienced. Your tactics indicate two-dimensional thinking.
Thanks Warped9.
Purely an experiment that spilled over from the "Self Illuminating Enterprise" thread
And another interim graphic from another thread... The Battle of L-374 from "The Doomsday Machine":
For the detail-oriented observers of TOS...
Did anyone notice this odd scene in "By Any Other Name" where the bridge main viewer doesn't appear in front of the helm station?
http://tos.trekcore.com/hd/albums/2x22hd/byanyothernamehd0858.jpg
Or in a few episodes, the helm station doesn't always align with the viewer? It's happened in a few different episodes so it isn't an isolated incident
Just throwing this out here... Could it be theorized that the helm/captain's section is on a swivel platform?
This was discussed in the Fan Production Forum sometime in the last year or so. The member with the screen name GSchnitzer (Greg) is involved with the Star Trek Phase 2 (formerly Star Trek New Voyages) fan production. He said that the helm/nav section was rotated away from the main view screen because it would have been too time consuming and too expensive to show the effect of Chekov being transformed into the dodecahedron cube with star field effect on the main viewer. I suggested instead of rotating the helm/nav section away from the main viewer, just turn off the main viewer before Chekov is transformed into the cube (by having Kirk or Rojan ordering it off).
Navigator NCC-2120 USS Entente
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Even if the platform rotates, it won't solve the problem of the turbolift. Because the turbolift will still fail to line up with the nub, or the viewscreen won't face dead forward if the turbolift is rotated into the nub. Either way, the war continues.
LOL
One of these days I'll do a 3D version of the map. This revised version with a side view will have to do for now
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