No you can't. Because "organic" is an absolutely meaningless label. "Organic" foods use fertilizer and pesticides, often in higher amounts and with higher toxicity than any "regular" food.
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Same question: Did you know in advance which was which? The reason blind tests are necessary is that human brains are very good at fooling themselves. If you expect one thing to taste better than another, then it will. It's only a meaningful comparison if you don't know in advance which one is which.
I've read that even wine connoisseurs can be fooled this way -- for instance, if you serve them a cheap wine in the bottle of an expensive wine, they'll perceive it as being just as good as the expensive wine. Any flavor has multiple components in it, and our brains can selectively pay more attention to some components than others, and that affects what we think we're tasting.
i did that intentionally as part of a competition i was running (bunch of events, long story, but funny). Everyone thinks they can identify beers, or there are Budweiser drinkers that will talk crap about, say, Coors and swear they won't touch it, piss water, whatever. I got 10 common brand beers and gave everyone small dixie cups of all 10. Told them what the 10 beers were and told them to identify what the 10 dixie cups were (each had a number written on it). Heaviest drinker got 4 out of 10 correct, and I intentionally put a couple 'gimme' ones in there (there was a Sam Adams and a Malt Liquor). The rest were things like bud, corona, miller high life, Heineken, o'Douls, etc.
Guy that drinks the most said Miller Lite is his beer he drinks all the time, and thought the O'Douls was the Miller lite.
You'd THINK you could pick out a Corona, or a non-alcoholic beer, or know what Heineken tastes like, but when presented with all of them, really can't tell them apart that much. Maybe if you had just two, MAYBE. but given more choices, they're really all about the same. Your brain just fills in most of the info, and you suck at it more than you think you do.
Guy that drinks the most said Miller Lite is his beer he drinks all the time, and thought the O'Douls was the Miller lite.
You'd THINK you could pick out a Corona, or a non-alcoholic beer, or know what Heineken tastes like, but when presented with all of them, really can't tell them apart that much. Maybe if you had just two, MAYBE. but given more choices, they're really all about the same. Your brain just fills in most of the info, and you suck at it more than you think you do.
Yeah. The human tongue isn't really all that good at fine chemical analysis, beyond the level of "This is spoiled/poison, don't eat it" or "This is sweet, gimme calories" that our taste buds actually evolved for. So much of what we perceive as the flavor of a food is really psychological, a function of the presentation, the context, our expectations, or the emotions we associate with the meal.
There is such a thing as filtered milk, that not only tastes better but lasts longer as well. It might have been one of those.
Well, I'm not familiar with Whole Foods, but I think the message is a good one. And this is not just the CEO saying this, but many others elsewhere, and I think it's a very valid thing to be saying. People do need to look more closely at what they're consuming in general.
Sure I knew which was which, but being the same brand I don't think I had any bias one way or the other. I had the organic many times before I tried the regular.
Yeah, all the crying and moaning about non-GMO foods is plain ignorance of history, because we've been genetically modifying foods for decades. Red and green bell peppers had the heat bred out of them back in the '80s, for example. Apples, oranges, sweet corn, olives and tomatoes have all been re-bred to be resistant to pests and it happened long before supercorps like Monstanto. Our livestock and poultry has all been specifically bred for particular traits. Hell, there's even been work done in Maryland to make crabs especially horny, because the population is so low due to over-fishing.
Whole Foods' CEO is just pissed that people don't want to go to his store and pay ten bucks for an "organic" bunch of bananas.
More like millennia. Domestication is genetic modification, just by very slow and clumsy methods.
But yeah, modern GMO techniques have already been proven safe, and the manufactured panic over them is pure marketing hype.
And then there is the Vegan tyranny...
You can't win
https://www.webmd.com/diet/news/20190905/vegetarians-may-face-higher-stroke-risk#1
While vegetarians had a 22% lower risk for heart disease, they had a 20% higher risk for stroke
Yeah, and you know why? From putting up with vegans' sanctimonious bullshit.
I dated a vegan for some time, and it did not end well.
Have you heard about McDonald's McVegan? It shoves itself down your throat.
This is largely because of the greatly increased sodium intake associated with the non-meat protein associated with a reasonably healthy diet, considering it's generally less fat but much more salt.
And tomatos originally looked more like red pepers, with the "shoulders". They've been bred to last longer in a store, so they have less flavor and look like they do now. I'd love to find someone growing those originals, or something closer to them than the hybrids we have now.
Well, early wild tomatoes were little round berries. But for more variety of shapes and colors (and better flavor), try heirloom tomatoes at the local farmers' market.
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So, you are trying to say that all brands, regions and countries milk for example tastes the same? That is completly wrong.
Even something like deer meat from various regions will have widely varying tastes.
Same with eggs.
Vegetables too.
If you can't tell the difference between a backyard tomato and one from Walmart, that's just sad.
Just a couple of weeks ago I bought frozen fruit, which I eat daily in yogurt, the store is being remodeled and I couldn't find the organic frozen fruit( I was in a hurry) so I quickly grabbed some 'regular' frozen fruit.
I really wasn't thinking about it the next day when I was eating it, but to me the fruit tasted sort of like plastic. I was pretty much done eating it before I even remembered that it was not the organic kind.
In addition I took a nutrition cooking class and one of the nutritionist ssid that there was point in paying for organic, I pointed out the taste difference, she didn't agree necessarily, but the chef also teaching the class whispered to me later that he could also definitely taste the difference between the two.
Lol.
Do your own taste test.
Buy a cake from Wal-mart, the kind from the bakery section, the type where you can get something 'written' on top and the same day/time but one from a mom and pop bakery.
Do your own taste taste on those,
See which one leaves a disgusting oily weird tasting film inside your mouth.
Uhh, no, Doom Shepherd was specifically and only saying that the distinction between "organic" and other foods is exaggerated. One specific difference does not equate to every conceivable difference.
Oh, I totally get the difference from hand made, artisan and specialist vs mass produced, fresh vs treated for a long shelf life, produced for flavour vs for display, but regarding organic veg ?
I appreciate it's ethics and lack of contaminants, but with decent quality vegetables, I can't differentiate on flavour.
With something like organic milk any perceived or perceivable difference may be down to the milk being from one source, the herd being a breed chosen for quality not quantity and the care taken in processing and sterilising and if it is homogenised. Not necessarily because it's production confirms to organic standards.
Chances are organic is produced more carefully but it could well be the care, not the organic status that affects the flavour.
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I still think "organic foods" is a silly label, and I wish they had come up with a different one, because it annoys my literal mind. "Organic" means anything that comes from living organisms, i.e. plants and animals. Chemically speaking, "organic" means anything containing carbon compounds. So in the literal sense, pretty much all food is organic. The only edible items I can think of that aren't organic are water and salt.
^ Marketers have never let reality stand in their way before, so why start now?
