Big Brother

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

I didn't like Elissa to start with, but now I will not sleep until she is evicted. Her whole reaction to Amanda's dance for McCrae on his birthday and her Aaryn/Kaitlin pot stirring against the wishes of her own freaking alliance were just ridiculous. Hopefully Aaryn throws her on the block without a second though. It's the perfect week to get rid of her with her unable to play POV.

Barring any "expect the unexpected" twists, I think Elissa is going to be talking one on one to Julie Chen next week Thursday. I didn't originally mind Elissa so much, but after this last week, she's more than earned her eviction. Hard to fathom many of her bone-headed comments this week, especially tipping off Kaitin to the house's plan.

My hope is that Helen shakes off any Elissa associations and grows into a stronger player because of it.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

The only person other than Elissa I see leaving this week is Ginamarie, because she's almost certainly the MVP nominee.

Hopefully Aryan goes right after her.

 

[Spot's Meow]

I didn't like Elissa to start with, but now I will not sleep until she is evicted. Her whole reaction to Amanda's dance for McCrae on his birthday and her Aaryn/Kaitlin pot stirring against the wishes of her own freaking alliance were just ridiculous. Hopefully Aaryn throws her on the block without a second though. It's the perfect week to get rid of her with her unable to play POV.

Barring any "expect the unexpected" twists, I think Elissa is going to be talking one on one to Julie Chen next week Thursday. I didn't originally mind Elissa so much, but after this last week, she's more than earned her eviction. Hard to fathom many of her bone-headed comments this week, especially tipping off Kaitin to the house's plan.

My hope is that Helen shakes off any Elissa associations and grows into a stronger player because of it.

I agree, Elissa was really just okay for me in the beginning, but as the weeks go by she gets crazier and pulls more ridiculously stupid moves, so I'll be happy to see her go.

However, I don't think she will be going this week. Her alliance definitely has her on notice, but they don't seem quite ready to vote her out. Besides, their real target for this week is Howard. Nominations have already occurred and....

Spoiler: Nominations

Aaryn nominated Howard and Spencer, with Howard being the real target. She did this partly because she made a deal with Amanda, Helen, McCrae, Judd, Jessie, and Andy to nominate whoever they wanted if they didn't vote her out last week. She's sticking to the deal in an effort to gain trust. She's also threatened by Howard and wants him out anyway. I would say that unless Howard wins POV, he's going home. And if he does, then Spencer will go home, or possibly the MVP nominee. Things always change though!

By the way, you can code spoiler tags either by going to advanced view and clicking on the smilie on the top bar with an X over its mouth, or you can use [ spoiler="Short description" ]Put the spoiler here[ / spoiler]. Without the spaces of course.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

The way things are going Aryan might actually have a new life in this game. Might be a few more weeks before she gets 'Axed'. Then Julie will axe her how she feels about losing the game AND her job.

(Based on not knowing any of the live feeds) Andy seems to be in a really strong position in the game. He's the smallest target in the biggest alliance, and he's smart and has great observational skills. Wouldn't be surprised to see an Andy/Judd final.

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

(Based on not knowing any of the live feeds) Andy seems to be in a really strong position in the game. He's the smallest target in the biggest alliance, and he's smart and has great observational skills. Wouldn't be surprised to see an Andy/Judd final.

Judd I'm not so sure on but Andy is a definite contender. He has a strong social game and the other players don't even imagine him as a threat. I can see him slipping right into the final four before anyone even considers putting him on the block. So far, a very smart player.

Aaryn missed an opportunity, IMO, to get rid of Elissa. I understand that see didn't want to upset her loose alliance with others but Elissa's inability to play in the Veto comp would mean being able to back door her with actually having to go through the trouble of, you know, back dooring her. Judging by the look on her face, even Elissa thought not nominating her was a mistake and a waste of a perfect opportunity on Aaryn's part.

 

[Spot's Meow]

(Based on not knowing any of the live feeds) Andy seems to be in a really strong position in the game. He's the smallest target in the biggest alliance, and he's smart and has great observational skills. Wouldn't be surprised to see an Andy/Judd final.

Judd I'm not so sure on but Andy is a definite contender. He has a strong social game and the other players don't even imagine him as a threat. I can see him slipping right into the final four before anyone even considers putting him on the block. So far, a very smart player.

Aaryn missed an opportunity, IMO, to get rid of Elissa. I understand that see didn't want to upset her loose alliance with others but Elissa's inability to play in the Veto comp would mean being able to back door her with actually having to go through the trouble of, you know, back dooring her. Judging by the look on her face, even Elissa thought not nominating her was a mistake and a waste of a perfect opportunity on Aaryn's part.

I don't think that Aaryn was afraid to do it, but I think that she knew there wouldn't be the votes to evict Elissa. I really wish she was going this week, I wouldn't want to see her get to jury, but her giant alliance isn't ready to vote her out yet. Oh well.

And I agree that Andy is in a great position. Judd was doing really well until HOH put him in the spotlight a little too much, but if he keeps calm for a couple of weeks he should be okay again.

 

[Danny99]

If Howard had won the POV, I think we'd see Elissa on the block and going home. This house is so set on getting rid of a guy who can't and doesn't want to win competitions over someone who has proven they can win competitions and can win the MVP handily thanks to her sister. I don't mind Howard, but I loathe Elissa and I was willing to give her a shot even with the Rachel connection.

Andy's problem is that he is the third with Helen/Elissa, Amanda/McCrae, Judd/Jessie, pretty much every alliance in the house. He needs to work in to one of them or he could be on the outside looking in at the end.

 

[Spot's Meow]

I think that Howard or Spencer would have gone this week, whichever one didn't win POV.

The new alliance of the day seems to be a final four between Aaryn, Andy, Amanda, and McCrae. Andy, Amanda, and McCrae did have a final four with Judd (called the Goof Troop) for a couple of weeks, but all of a sudden Amanda and Andy have decided that they don't trust Judd and they think he's MVP and is trying to get Amanda out. It's completely false but they want Judd out now. Which is terrible for me, because the feeds would be unwatchable without Judd. He's the only likable person in the house. I'm rooting for him to win, but now it's not looking good. Andy really seems to distrust him for things that never even happened.

Anyway, so they've replaced Judd with Aaryn, with Helen, Jessie, and Elissa as a sort of a side alliance (but they think they are part of the main alliance). The plan is to get Candice and Spencer out next. Then they want Judd out. Of course, everything will probably change depending on who wins HOH on Thursday!

 

[JirinPanthosa]

The argument from McRae/Amanda's perspective to keep Elissa in the house is that she's predictable. They know who she's targeting and it's not them. She's also a lightning rod, as long as she's in the house all the drama revolves around her.

The thing about Amanda's alliances is that it's only a matter of time before somebody outside them gets HoH and puts up her against McRae. Andy's only big worry is that he's an obvious pawn.

 

[Danny99]

So Howard goes home and Aaryn goes on the block. Business as usual.

 

[Danny99]

I'm sick of Helen, I'm sick of Elissa, I'm sick of Candice, I'm sick of Andy, and I never thought I'd say this, but I'm sick of McManda too.

Helen has somehow managed to make people do whatever she wants, but is she humble? Not a chance! Everything is her great idea and no one else's! Elissa is worse than her sister, at least Rachel was kind enough to be an upfront, in your face, grating bitch. Elissa is a sneaky, behind your back, manipulative bitch. And Andy! Can you say the yearly Big Brother gay stereotype! And McManda, Big Brother engaged? First of all, 42 days isn't enough to have this deep emotional connection and second, why don't you paint a bigger fucking target on your backs. Finally, Candice. "Howie, Howie! Talk to my face! Aaryn's a racist!" Broken record that I have no sympathy for simply because of her own actions. The funny thing is them trying to paint Judd as this criminal mastermind when sometimes it seems like he can't tie his shoes without help.

Cheering for Spencer and Judd now. The rest of them might as well be the second coming of the Nerd Herd.

 

[Spot's Meow]

I am still rooting for Judd big time. This past week has been really hard to watch on the feeds because his alliance turned on him, and pretty much everyone in the house was bad-mouthing him. Basically, he became the new Howard. Amanda fixates on someone that she wants gone and anything that happens in the house, she twists to fit her preconceived notions of that person. So, every single thing Judd did or said, or that anyone else did or said, was turned around to mean that he was a genius trying to manipulate everyone.

They, especially Amanda, are absolutely convinced that Judd is MVP. It's actually really frustrating to watch Amanda spread false information about the one likable and normal person in the house, as if it is 100% fact. I wish they would tell them that America is MVP so that they will stop blaming Judd.

By the way....

Spoiler: MVP Nomination

Amanda was nominated again by America. Of course she's convinced that Judd did it again, even though that makes no sense at all.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Maybe it's cause I'm not watching the feeds but I still like most of the people in the house. What's so great about 'Normal' anyway? I do like Judd, but I find McRae, Helen, Andy likable too. Amanda has started to grate on me. She has revealed some deep insecurities. Helen's bragging doesn't bother me. And why can't any gay person have any personality traits in common with gay stereotypes without being accused of being a gay stereotype? He's just emotionally expressive. He strikes me as every bit as 'Normal' as Judd.

Candice strikes me like she's a good person but can't handle the lack of control that comes with being in the house.

 

[Danny99]

I know plenty of gay men that don't fit into the stereotype that Big Brother has been into. Big Brother finds gay men that will cry or act feminine or be the catty "Oh don't go there!" stereotype. If they wanted to promote diversity of everyone, they could find a quiet gay football star or something. Instead they keep dragging up the Bunky and Marcellas copies in hopes that can catch lighting in a bottle again.

 

[Spot's Meow]

Maybe it's cause I'm not watching the feeds but I still like most of the people in the house. What's so great about 'Normal' anyway? I do like Judd, but I find McRae, Helen, Andy likable too. Amanda has started to grate on me. She has revealed some deep insecurities. Helen's bragging doesn't bother me. And why can't any gay person have any personality traits in common with gay stereotypes without being accused of being a gay stereotype? He's just emotionally expressive. He strikes me as every bit as 'Normal' as Judd.

Candice strikes me like she's a good person but can't handle the lack of control that comes with being in the house.

I think this is one of the most unlikable casts ever! So many of them have had terribly racist or sexist behavior, or are just incredibly rude or annoying.

As I said before I love Judd, he has a great sense of humor. I actually like Andy as well, and I am neutral on McCrae. Sometimes they irritate me though because they can get really paranoid. Candice is intelligent and a good person, but I didn't like how she was around Howard. Now that he's gone she's better.

Helen...I used to like her a lot, but now I can't even stand to watch her on feeds. She is way too chipper and "I'm here for the experience!" She also thinks she knows so much about what's going on in the house when she's really clueless. She keeps taking credit for things, like getting Nick or Jeremy evicted, when it wasn't her who masterminded it! It gets annoying.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

I know plenty of gay men that don't fit into the stereotype that Big Brother has been into.

So do I. That doesn't mean gay men should be considered 'Not normal' for having any characteristics that meet that stereotype. This is how stereotype anxiety happens.

There have been far more unlikable casts than this one. I will list them all.

Season 5: It started out with the 'Four horsemen' alliance then the completely unbearable twins.

Season 6: The Friendship Five was the least likable alliance in BB history, and they WON.

Season 8: Dick was the least unlikable person in the house. Think about that for a moment. A truly detestable human being was less objectionable than the other alliance.

Season 9: I didn't get past the first episode in the writer's strike season, that's how bad it was.

Season 11: This is probably the least likable cast in BB history. It introduced us to Jesse and the athletic clique, it introduced the douche/airhead-mance of Jeff/Jordan that polluted two seasons of Big Brother AND Amazing Race (And Jeff made homophobic comments worse than anything Aaryn said). Then Ronnie, the guy so nerdy you just wanted him to be likable, turned out to be a raging asshole who treated Michelle like shit for no reason at all. And EVERY SINGLE PERSON went into the diary room and said they were morally better than everybody else in the house and thus deserved to win.

Season 12: Another season where everybody treated everybody else like shit all the time. The Brigade was completely unlikable and they were the only ones actually playing the game that season. They all had that morally superior attitude in the diary room and most of the cast were spoiled brats.

Season 13: The fans had the opportunity to put Will and Mike in the house and put in Dick, Brendon, Rachel, Jeff and Jordan. Again, didn't make it past the first episode.

So out of 15th seasons, this group is the 8th most likable. Okay, that's a statement to the generally shitty job they do with casting. But at least this year nobody is saying "EVERYBODY WHO IS TRYIGN TO WIN THE GAME AND ISN'T ME IS AN EVIL HORRIBLE PERSON."

 

[Spot's Meow]

I know plenty of gay men that don't fit into the stereotype that Big Brother has been into.

So do I. That doesn't mean gay men should be considered 'Not normal' for having any characteristics that meet that stereotype. This is how stereotype anxiety happens.

There have been far more unlikable casts than this one. I will list them all.

Season 5: It started out with the 'Four horsemen' alliance then the completely unbearable twins.

Season 6: The Friendship Five was the least likable alliance in BB history, and they WON.

Season 8: Dick was the least unlikable person in the house. Think about that for a moment. A truly detestable human being was less objectionable than the other alliance.

Season 9: I didn't get past the first episode in the writer's strike season, that's how bad it was.

Season 11: This is probably the least likable cast in BB history. It introduced us to Jesse and the athletic clique, it introduced the douche/airhead-mance of Jeff/Jordan that polluted two seasons of Big Brother AND Amazing Race (And Jeff made homophobic comments worse than anything Aaryn said). Then Ronnie, the guy so nerdy you just wanted him to be likable, turned out to be a raging asshole who treated Michelle like shit for no reason at all. And EVERY SINGLE PERSON went into the diary room and said they were morally better than everybody else in the house and thus deserved to win.

Season 12: Another season where everybody treated everybody else like shit all the time. The Brigade was completely unlikable and they were the only ones actually playing the game that season. They all had that morally superior attitude in the diary room and most of the cast were spoiled brats.

Season 13: The fans had the opportunity to put Will and Mike in the house and put in Dick, Brendon, Rachel, Jeff and Jordan. Again, didn't make it past the first episode.

So out of 15th seasons, this group is the 8th most likable. Okay, that's a statement to the generally shitty job they do with casting. But at least this year nobody is saying "EVERYBODY WHO IS TRYIGN TO WIN THE GAME AND ISN'T ME IS AN EVIL HORRIBLE PERSON."

But that's exactly what they've been saying this season. Not as much in the DR sessions or what's been shown in the episodes on TV, but on the feeds groups of HGs will literally sit together for hours bashing someone. The things that Aaryn and Amanda have said are the worst, especially with Candice probably going home this week they still sit there talking about how much they hate her, how evil she is, how much she doesn't deserve to be here, and making more racial comments. Amanda has even gotten in trouble in DR for making death threats against her. I know this sort of personal revenge isn't unusual for BB, and that there have been unlikable people on BB before, but as a whole I think this is the worst cast. At least in other seasons with assholes in them, you have someone positive to root for. There's really really slim pickings this year in terms of anyone to root for. Honestly, once Judd is gone I don't think I will watch feeds anymore. As it is now I basically follow him on feeds because it's unbearable to listen to any of these other jerks talk.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

At least in other seasons with assholes in them, you have someone positive to root for. There's really really slim pickings this year in terms of anyone to root for. Honestly, once Judd is gone I don't think I will watch feeds anymore. As it is now I basically follow him on feeds because it's unbearable to listen to any of these other jerks talk.

Are McRae and Andy involved in the bashing? I don't see why either of them don't get included on the 'likable' list... are you making McRae guilty by association with Amanda?

I suppose season 5 had a few good people, season 6 had Kaysar & Janelle, but most of the seasons I listed didn't have anybody at all positive to root for. Seasons 8, 11, and 12 in particular didn't have a likable one in the cast. Or if they did, they were either bigger gay stereotypes than Andy or were terrible at the game. Even season 10 which I left off the list only had two likable people who just happened to be the final two.

The only times BB has actually done a good job with casting are seasons 2, 3, 7 and 14.

 

[JirinPanthosa]

Did Ginamarie just say "Candice needs to go back to Candeeland"?!

Was she making a pun on Candice's name and hasn't seen the movie Django Unchained or is she really saying what it sounds like she's saying?!

 

[Sto-Vo-Kory]

So that's why Amanda is getting nominated consecutively by America.

Tonight's episode was a very ugly revelation (for those of us just watching the prime time shows).