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Better Call Saul, the TV series

I just rewatched the last few episodes of Breaking Bad. I'm still uncertain why Saul used the Vacuum guy's services...more than before. Saul had encountered more dangerous folks than Jesse and Walt. He can't be doing it just because he thought Walt and Jesse might go after him.
 
Jayson1 said:
Is it me but I think it's the best show on tv right now. It's been that way for awhile even. I hope Odenkirk and Seehorn desire Emmy wins for best male and female lead and Mando should maybe get one for supporting and Banks should get a nomination.

Jason
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It's not just you Jay - this is the best show on television. Consistently excellent.
 
Finn said:
I just rewatched the last few episodes of Breaking Bad. I'm still uncertain why Saul used the Vacuum guy's services...more than before. Saul had encountered more dangerous folks than Jesse and Walt. He can't be doing it just because he thought Walt and Jesse might go after him.
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He knew Skyler was going to talk. Even if that alone wouldn't indict him for money laundering and racketeering, it's his face who was constantly defending Jesse, and there'd be probable cause to search everything.
 
But he’d just lose his license. It’d hard to prove he helped with laundering, as we saw him shred his files, etc. they might have been able to if Walt had gone with the nail salon.
 
Well that was an intense experience. :wtf: :wtf: :wtf:

Jimmy and Mike's arduous toil through the desert was gripping, and also painful. I managed to miss the look on Jimmy's face re: foil blankets and Chuck.

Kim, you need to get out and save yourself.

I've already put a mental note in for later this year or even next year to rewatch Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul ready for the last season. I can't wait to see how it all pieces together.
 
Finn said:
But he’d just lose his license. It’d hard to prove he helped with laundering, as we saw him shred his files, etc. they might have been able to if Walt had gone with the nail salon.
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Such a high profile case involving the death of federal agents, you think they're not going to RICO his butt? Racketeering charges? Maybe they can prove the laundering, maybe they can't, but they'd go through everything, talk to everyone. If they couldn't prove Walt specific charges they can probably prove a ton of the minor charges he accumulated over the years.
 
^Yes, that's kinda my point. Saul would be in trouble yes, but I'm getting the feeling there are other issues that he felt would surface with that investigation, beyond Walt and Pinkman, that warrants him getting the vacuum guy's services...
 
Seven of Five said:
Kim, you need to get out and save yourself.
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I really hope so. I do worry it's her death which catalyses Jimmy going full Saul. Although them parting ways (for her protection, perhaps) could also have the same effect. However he ends up losing Kim, I imagine it'll knock the last vestiges of morality out of him.
 
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Finn said:
I just rewatched the last few episodes of Breaking Bad. I'm still uncertain why Saul used the Vacuum guy's services...more than before. Saul had encountered more dangerous folks than Jesse and Walt. He can't be doing it just because he thought Walt and Jesse might go after him.
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Saul needed protection from those dummies becuase they are world class dummies. You can't predict how not smart they are going to be because of how amazingly bad they are at crime.

Mike is bleeding out, becuase he won't remake a list Walt has already seen and Lydia could replicate.

Yup.

Dummies.
 
That was really good, though I have no idea why Mike wants the money to get to civilisation so Lalo gets free, is this so he can go back across the border and then Gus can have him killed? So was it just some random gang-bangers who held up Jimmy, called by the guy at the start? I assumed, incorrectly obviously, that they'd been sent by Gus initially.

Jimmy and Kim have really dropped Kim in it with both sides now. :(

I didn't twig about the blanket either!
 
I don't Kim is quite the innocent angel people seem to think of her. Her first instinct isn't to go shady like it kind of is with Jimmy but their is a reason why they both love each other and she isn't a fool. She knows what Jimmy is about. I think she even envy's Jimmy a little while also having that voice telling her it's wrong but it's still their. Remember if you looked at Walter before he got cancer I bet nobody would ever predict that their was apart of him who wanted to Break Bad or who would have thought his wife would eventually join in with laundering the money. Jimmy and Kim have a lot of Walter and Skylar in them. Only Kim I think is even more into it than Skylar ever was. She fell in love with someone who was sort of always on the verge of becoming Saul Goodman years ago.

Jason
 
I've been thinking a lot about the Breaking Bad universe...a lot.

One thing bothers me...especially as someone is trained and licensed as a science teacher, is how Walt disregards himself and how people around him talk if Walt has a boring lifestyle.

I'm telling you. Being a high school chemistry teacher is nothing to laugh at. I'm a bit annoyed at how Walt described himself as overqualifed.

NOBODY is overqualified to be a science teacher.

But I kept thinking about the scenes around Walt's 50th birthday party. Hank Kinda looked down at him, the way he said that Walt needed some excitement in his life. I'm telling you, Walt has enough with his students. .



Honestly, I might have forgotten something, but the White family should have been able to have a nicer house than Hank and Marie..,
 
Starkers said:
That was really good, though I have no idea why Mike wants the money to get to civilisation so Lalo gets free, is this so he can go back across the border and then Gus can have him killed? So was it just some random gang-bangers who held up Jimmy, called by the guy at the start? I assumed, incorrectly obviously, that they'd been sent by Gus initially.
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Yup, Gus stated last episode (or two episodes ago) that he needs Lalo out of prison because the cartel will know if Lalo dies on this side of the border, it was because of Gus. I, too, initially thought the gang-bangers were sent by Gus and I also thought the unseen sharpshooter were the Salamanca cousins, shadowing Saul on his way back. What actually played out makes much more sense (of course).

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I didn't twig about the blanket either!
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I missed the obvious connection, too, although way in the back of my mind, I knew the image of Mike wrapping himself up in the blanket looked familiar but didn't think too much of it. Saul's rejection of Mike's offer makes so much more sense now.
 
Finn said:
I've been thinking a lot about the Breaking Bad universe...a lot.

One thing bothers me...especially as someone is trained and licensed as a science teacher, is how Walt disregards himself and how people around him talk if Walt has a boring lifestyle.

I'm telling you. Being a high school chemistry teacher is nothing to laugh at. I'm a bit annoyed at how Walt described himself as overqualifed.

NOBODY is overqualified to be a science teacher.

But I kept thinking about the scenes around Walt's 50th birthday party. Hank Kinda looked down at him, the way he said that Walt needed some excitement in his life. I'm telling you, Walt has enough with his students. .



Honestly, I might have forgotten something, but the White family should have been able to have a nicer house than Hank and Marie..,
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The way I think you got to look at him calling himself overqualified in a different light in retrospection. It's about power. He is overqualified because deep down he wants the power he got from being a world class criminal. He was wanting to Break Bad in his heart long before he ever got cancer. He wanted to become what he became because like he would later say at some point it wasn't about just providing for his family. He kept doing it long after he had more than enough money to need to keep doing because he liked doing it.

Jason
 
Jayson1 said:
The way I think you got to look at him calling himself overqualified in a different light in retrospection. It's about power. He is overqualified because deep down he wants the power he got from being a world class criminal. He was wanting to Break Bad in his heart long before he ever got cancer. He wanted to become what he became because like he would later say at some point it wasn't about just providing for his family. He kept doing it long after he had more than enough money to need to keep doing because he liked doing it.

Jason
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I think that Walt was kicking himself for years over leaving Grey Matter, knowing that he would have become a billionaire if he had stayed. Cancer or not, he certainly would never have had to resort to cooking meth and becoming a criminal at fifty years old. Becoming Heisenberg was his way to achieve that success and sense of accomplishment that he had missed earlier.
A loose real-world analog is Ron Wayne, the forgotten third founder of Apple: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ronald_Wayne
 
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Jayson1 said:
The way I think you got to look at him calling himself overqualified in a different light in retrospection. It's about power. He is overqualified because deep down he wants the power he got from being a world class criminal. He was wanting to Break Bad in his heart long before he ever got cancer. He wanted to become what he became because like he would later say at some point it wasn't about just providing for his family. He kept doing it long after he had more than enough money to need to keep doing because he liked doing it.

Jason
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I know. He had a plenty of options. He could have gotten a nice gig at UNM and other employers with research stuff going on. It's on him. There are teachers who had great careers running programs or projects and decide they are happy teaching. Walt has been dragging himself down for years, with the perception of being powerless.
 
Just saw yesterday's episode - I love Mike. I think he's my favourite character from both series!
 
Finn said:
I know. He had a plenty of options. He could have gotten a nice gig at UNM and other employers with research stuff going on. It's on him. There are teachers who had great careers running programs or projects and decide they are happy teaching. Walt has been dragging himself down for years, with the perception of being powerless.
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I would even say his perception of what he thinks power looks like. To him the ability to be outside of the law and not just be respected but even be seen as irreplaceable and feared is appealing to him. He likes the whole lifestyle of it all that he created where he is more than just a regular family man with a great job. He is Heisenberg.

Jason
 
Two more episodes to wrap up what the heck happens to Kim, Nacho and Lalo, none of whom were ever to be seen again in Breaking Bad... buckle up!

That was one nicely staged "fish in a barrel" shootout...
 
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