^ I just meant, what did the bullies do to him in the episode that was "really bad"?
Being Erica - Season 3
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Ohhh, I see. Sorry, I thought you meant back in the first season.
I don't think it was edited too well, because that part escaped me too. At first I thought it was just the aweful treatment they were giving him that was making him sick to his stomach. They definitely weren't treating them to their level. I think what happened was that the guy put something in his drink, but they really didn't make that obvious. You could see that he was making faces a bit suggesting something was going on while Erica stood by watching what he was going through. If that's not it, other than the bullying getting to him, I don't know.
Yup, the current Kai has no idea who Erica is. So I am guessing Future Kai is once again back in his past for another regret.
I'm not sure either, but it seems that Leo was sodomized with that broomstick. Its all implied, with the broomstick being called Lucy, the way Leo winced in pain when he sat down, and the frat boy pretending to "ride" Lucy.
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That was exactly my take on it, especially considering Erica's violent reaction, and desire for further violence. You wouldn't call the police because they had Leo fetching beers for them.
I didn't have time to review the episode, but I also got the impression that he was sodomized.
I guess I missed that connection. It does make sense now, though I still think the editing could of been better to make a better connection out of it. Still don't like the episode too much. Makes me wonder what kind of other stuff goes on in fraternities that are gotten away with.
Arson, destruction of private property, yelling about NERDS!!!! Stuff like that.
I think that they purposefully did not make it obvious both so that the viewer would have to think, which is more effective in itself, and to avoid censor issues. This is the CBC after all. I'd suspect the producers opted to keep it PG but to make it thought provoking as possible.
I like the episode a lot and also started liking Adam more. Here he is coming across as someone who is making some progress with his own therapy, he as earned advancement to stage 2 and found some insight into his violent past and been able to walk away from it.
Julieanne was a bit of a characature this episode, and "I heart you Chicken" is going to get tired fast, but I loved the look on her face in the closing scene, the pouty childish anger as she glared at the laptop. She is so bad she is good.
Leo's scene from earlier years where he drops out of university but won't talk it out with his parents is now so obviously clear, and this is a huge blow to Erica; she thought she understood him but discovers this and it is like an atomic bomb going off for her emotionally.
The movie of Brent at the party was hilarious and I'm sure we haven't seen the last of that. Brent is also holding some secret hurt inside for him to be such an evil dick. One thing to scoop a single book, but the statement that he has put the word out that Riverrock wants any and every book that J&E try to publish is over the top.
The new owners of the Goblin are a hoot, although a touch predictable, probably because I know too many gay couples like them in RL.
This is a very adult show and I do not get why its alright to show Erica and Cassidy's lesbian scene while it is not okay to clarify what happened to Leo. And I do not mean scenes showing Leo being sodomized. However, even a short scene where the frat leader says "Lets help Leo and Lucy get acquainted" would have clarified what happened a lot more than the innuendos we were given.
Yeah, exactly. It's not so much an issue of content, as an issue of editing it in a way that makes it clearer what happened to Leo. It's not even the innuendo that was the problem, and I know what was implied from it. It was a lack of connection between the two for the viewer, and seeing the violence really left me feeling empty and repulsed.
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I'm not being facetious here, lesbian sex is hot, even to nervous right-wing fundamentalists. Male anal rape in a frat house is terrifiying to nervous right-wing fundamentalists. These are two extremely different topics.
Yeah, I suppose there is that, and it must have been difficult to get the message across in a way that could be shown on TV, and while they were creative about it, I just think they could have done a bit more to link what happened with Leo with that. As it is, you see Lucy the broom being waved around, with the next scene being Leo on his bed. I'm not saying we should have been hit over the head with overt imagery, but it could have used a scene to bridge the gap of understanding, like perhaps a flashback scene while Erica is talking to him.
In my opinion, this is one of the worst episodes.I found it overly violent and it didn't sit well with me. Too uncharacteristic of Being Erica.
I get what you are saying and when I watched I had actually thought there was a few seconds missing or I had blinked and missed something. For me though, the net effect is that I went through the process that Erica went through, I didn't get it, then I started to put 2 and 2 together and then I got it. I think that what the producers decided to do was not push the envelope overtly in terms of discussing anal rape with a broomstick, and then they thought, how can we do this and bring the viewer into Erica's head. It ended up working for me, if it didn't work for you I understand, it was a dodgy technique.
Yeah, exactly. I thought it was cute what they were doing with the broomstick, but the underlying reason of what they were doing with it didn't strike me. What I saw was Leo being tormented and being made fun of. I didn't understand why Erica was suddenly being so violent towards the guy, other than the fact that she saw him torment Leo, and I could see that hurt her. I'm just surprised that Leo didn't just ditch them earlier after what they did to him. Made me wonder why he stuck around so long.
I think it needed to be violent, honestly. That was really part of the whole point of it. And this is a show that has shown it can get pretty dark when it needs to be, so I don't think it was uncharacteristic at all.
Personally, I thought it was great. Well thought-out, and the script was excellent (if a tiny bit muddled, as others noted).
There has been a handful of episodes that I cannot bear rewatching because I am uncomfortable with the subject matter. Erica being a "playboy bunny" in Taiwan, Erica LARPing and Leo's death, those few episodes are great but the subject matter is outside my comfort zone.
Like Canadave said, there has been darker episodes. I'm just curious, are you rating this episode as bad because its topic of frat ragging, violence and revenge is out of your comfort zone?
No, I just felt it was a bad episode in general. There have been darker episodes, yes, but I've enjoyed those a lot more, and I just didn't feel this one was executed too well. It hit me rather hard too. If it makes any difference, the violence hit harder due to the way it was edited down with less connection between scenes.
Anyhow, this week's episode was awesome. Groundhog Day!
I wondered how long it would take for them to do something like this. I cracked up at her interactions with the phone guy.
Anyhow, this week's episode was awesome. Groundhog Day!
I wondered how long it would take for them to do something like this. I cracked up at her interactions with the phone guy.
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^ 3x04 was a fantastic episode. I was on the edge of my seat, fully engaged the whole time. This isn't too spoilerish for those who've seen season 2, so I'll just say it... Future Kai, while on another therapy session in 2010 drops by Erica's place to say that he can't find her in 2019. Erica ssumes it's because she's dead. The episode then deals with what a person does when they "know" they're going to die in a few years. My first reaction to hearing what Kai said? Maybe she's not around because she's Dr. Erica and isn't out and about living a normal life like a regular person.
Anyhoo...
Anyhoo...
The Groundhog Day stuff was mildly fun, but Erica got over her concerns a little too quickly and easily. I was also surprised that Dr. Tom didn't already have some idea about why she was missing in 2019. If she's to become a therapist, you'd think that he'd know something. Then again, maybe they don't live special or secret lives, making her disappearance a mystery indeed. I don't think this is that last we've heard about the situation and I think it plays into this "different fate" theory that intrinsical mentioned upthread, which seem to be taking shape. I think we'll get something by the end of the season.
I think they're maybe saving the secret of her disappearance for later, but yeah, maybe not at all either. Dr Tom seemed to be rather set to not reveal it. Makes me wonder if Erica's changed so much that Kai can't recognizer her in 2019, or maybe, if she becomes a therapist, that it's been made so that Kai can't find her because of that; a therapist rule that all other therapists are bound to. Dr Tom hasn't said much about his past, aside from his regrets about his daughter, so maybe for therapists, the past is verbatim including interaction with people from their past. The other therapist says as much when she complains that Dr Tom went into his past. So, that's my theory. Verbatim for therapists themselves to look back into their past in order to help client move forward with their own problems.
Oh, and notice the car guy is back again? I called it as a recurring role, and he seemed to have even more time this time out. I'm guessing that we'll see even more of him as the season progresses and maybe he'll be a key part of season 4. But it does make you wonder who the guy is and why he's so important. I mean, Dr Tom and the other therapists seem to be like co-workers, but this guy seems to be a boss, or maybe he's just a friend. He does seem to get more important as time goes on.
Oh, and notice the car guy is back again? I called it as a recurring role, and he seemed to have even more time this time out. I'm guessing that we'll see even more of him as the season progresses and maybe he'll be a key part of season 4. But it does make you wonder who the guy is and why he's so important. I mean, Dr Tom and the other therapists seem to be like co-workers, but this guy seems to be a boss, or maybe he's just a friend. He does seem to get more important as time goes on.
Oh, and it moves to Wednesday starting next week. Not sure how I feel about that. It's been very successful in its current time slot. I wonder what their motivation is for moving it.
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Oh, something tells me that they will deal with what happened in tonight's episode. I'm not sure they'll just leave it. Kai even hinted at some catastrophy. It came off like a tease that we'll learn more about later.
And yeah, Graham Green's character Dr. Arthur does seem like some sort of boss figure. I expected to see him at the end of this episode and I think he'll play a bigger part this season.
And yeah, Graham Green's character Dr. Arthur does seem like some sort of boss figure. I expected to see him at the end of this episode and I think he'll play a bigger part this season.
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