That would be nice. It doesn't even have to be anything elaborate, it could be something as simple as just shuffling the secondary characters a bit (like a superhero exchange program
), or a mini villain arc across several shows...
Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1
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That would be nice. It doesn't even have to be anything elaborate, it could be something as simple as just shuffling the secondary characters a bit (like a superhero exchange program
), or a mini villain arc across several shows...
I'd be happy even to see the brief cameos they used to have in earlier seasons, like when the Flash showed up in an Arrow season finale to help get the heroes out of a jam before moving on. They've somehow gotten worse at using the shared-universe aspect in recent seasons. It used to be a fairly steady low-level thing, but now it's limited to the big crossovers and otherwise ignored.
Then I wish they'd include the option for such crossover appearances in the contracts to begin with.
Batwoman
Season 1 - Episode 19 - "A Secret Kept from All the Rest"
Kate/BW: Her emotions are all over the place, but I do enjoy the conflict with Luke--only if they reconcile somewhere down the line, admitting to her shortcomings, and realizing how much they need each other. That said, her "If you don't like how I do things, then no one's forcing you to be here" was completely out of line. Luke was right--her booty call was a set up that put that journal into the hands of a psychopath, whether Julia was involved or not.
Luke: One can understand his frustration; he's always been the responsible man--supporting Batman, trying to be stoic while the murder of his father was eating him up inside, and now dealing with Kate, he's had to chase after her--try to keep her on track while she leans to heavily on her emotional baggage, while being hard-headed when she's wrong (and possibly misjudging Julia). Its no wonder he felt he could walk out of the world that was once his.
So, he is as brilliant as his father--and did not need magic glasses to translate the journal. Nice contrast to what was going on in the Batcave, where Kate and her hangers-on stumbled across the solution by accident.
Good to see Kate so eager to make up with him.
Julia: "If I told you that, we wouldn't be sitting here..."
"There's stuff about Kate you don't know." Loving the intrigue. I cannot wait for Luke to ask Kate about that.
Alice / Mouse / Tommy "Hush" Elliot: Ah. Going after Luke--Alice is crazy. Enjoyed Elliot's dropping a world of truth on Mouse.
Alice using Hush to obtain Kryptonite....
Jacob /Sophie: Sophie is a far better character being Jacob's Right Hand. His "collateral damage" and warning to BW was a tough scene. I see him trying to unmask or kill her one day...
Well, there's the teaser with a fed up Jacob aiming his gun at her...
Mary: "You have a landline???" was actually funny. Considering her age, its likely she was never in a home that ever had one installed.
NOTES: Another slick intro.
As usual, excellent fight choreography; the Arkham riot was brutal and with Batwoman dropped during the fight, that served as a nice bit of realism and reminder that she's only a regular human.
Solid drama from start to finish. This series has proved itself time and again as one of two jewels of CW-DC TV series, the other obviously being Black Lightning.
Next week, the season finale.
GRADE: A+.
Season 1 - Episode 19 - "A Secret Kept from All the Rest"
Kate/BW: Her emotions are all over the place, but I do enjoy the conflict with Luke--only if they reconcile somewhere down the line, admitting to her shortcomings, and realizing how much they need each other. That said, her "If you don't like how I do things, then no one's forcing you to be here" was completely out of line. Luke was right--her booty call was a set up that put that journal into the hands of a psychopath, whether Julia was involved or not.
Luke: One can understand his frustration; he's always been the responsible man--supporting Batman, trying to be stoic while the murder of his father was eating him up inside, and now dealing with Kate, he's had to chase after her--try to keep her on track while she leans to heavily on her emotional baggage, while being hard-headed when she's wrong (and possibly misjudging Julia). Its no wonder he felt he could walk out of the world that was once his.
So, he is as brilliant as his father--and did not need magic glasses to translate the journal. Nice contrast to what was going on in the Batcave, where Kate and her hangers-on stumbled across the solution by accident.
Good to see Kate so eager to make up with him.
Julia: "If I told you that, we wouldn't be sitting here..."
"There's stuff about Kate you don't know." Loving the intrigue. I cannot wait for Luke to ask Kate about that.
Alice / Mouse / Tommy "Hush" Elliot: Ah. Going after Luke--Alice is crazy. Enjoyed Elliot's dropping a world of truth on Mouse.
Alice using Hush to obtain Kryptonite....
Jacob /Sophie: Sophie is a far better character being Jacob's Right Hand. His "collateral damage" and warning to BW was a tough scene. I see him trying to unmask or kill her one day...
Well, there's the teaser with a fed up Jacob aiming his gun at her...
Mary: "You have a landline???" was actually funny. Considering her age, its likely she was never in a home that ever had one installed.
NOTES: Another slick intro.
As usual, excellent fight choreography; the Arkham riot was brutal and with Batwoman dropped during the fight, that served as a nice bit of realism and reminder that she's only a regular human.
Solid drama from start to finish. This series has proved itself time and again as one of two jewels of CW-DC TV series, the other obviously being Black Lightning.
Next week, the season finale.
GRADE: A+.
Definitely setting up a mini-crossover of some sort.
Oh hey they used the Vancouver Public Library as a Library. Not sure the last time I saw that.
Edit: Oh the Kryptonite. How is Kryptonite going to stop Batwoman? Like I know its radiation can be harmful to humans, but that takes years doesn't it?
Unless It's to frame Batwoman of having it and make Supergirl angry or something.
What hint? I think I missed something.
Edit: Oh the Kryptonite. How is Kryptonite going to stop Batwoman? Like I know its radiation can be harmful to humans, but that takes years doesn't it?
Unless It's to frame Batwoman of having it and make Supergirl angry or something.
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I think there are some crossed wires somewhere.
1) Killing Batwoman shouldn't be that hard. if you need to decrypt a supergenius's secret journals in order to uncover the secret of killing Batwoman, you're supervillaining wrong.
Batwoman was captured and helpless not many episodes ago and as good as dead for a good period of time, but apparently the people smart enough to do that couldn't figure out how to remove her cowl, much less finish her off. Those guys could probably have used the help of the journals, though.
2) If you encrypt a secret journal on how to kill Batwoman, you're heroic supergeniusing wrong.
1) Killing Batwoman shouldn't be that hard. if you need to decrypt a supergenius's secret journals in order to uncover the secret of killing Batwoman, you're supervillaining wrong.
Batwoman was captured and helpless not many episodes ago and as good as dead for a good period of time, but apparently the people smart enough to do that couldn't figure out how to remove her cowl, much less finish her off. Those guys could probably have used the help of the journals, though.
2) If you encrypt a secret journal on how to kill Batwoman, you're heroic supergeniusing wrong.
Yup. The show has completely lost the plot.
It's not about stopping the person, it's about defeating the Batsuit. This has been a thread throughout the season, the idea of a weapon that can penetrate the otherwise impenetrable Bat-armor. I would speculate that, in the post-Crisis Earth-Prime reality, Lucius built this version of the Batsuit using Kryptonian materials donated by Superman, and kryptonite radiation is the only thing those materials are vulnerable to.
it's probably picking up on the earlier thread of a weapon that can penetrate the batsuit.
I just had a thought -- we know from the Lucifer cameo that Constantine has been able to cross between Earths in the past, and we know that Oliver knew him and could call on him for advice and favors. So maybe after Oliver first met Supergirl and was concerned about the potential threat from Kryptonians, he called up Constantine and asked if he'd ever been to Earth-38. Maybe John had a piece of kryptonite because it potentially had some mystical application. (There was a Constantine episode involving dark matter as a dangerous mystical force, so we know there's some overlap between scientific and supernatural hazards.) Or maybe he was able to summon some to Earth-1 on Oliver's behalf.
Alice knows Kate's secret identity. She doesn't need to defeat the bat-suit, if her objective is to kill Batwoman. Plus, the bat-suit hasn't protected Kate from her own mistakes, even from villains without the secret knowledge. So, it's not meshing well now. Maybe later it will get good again.
Surely the encrypted secret to defeating Batwoman is to drink your ovaltine. Or you know, shoot her in the face.
I mean Alice could have just shot Catherine, Cartwright too, she's always been elaborate about these things.
And It's not like comic book villains in general are the straightforward bunch on the best of days...
That's not really the issue. It's the conceit that the only way to kill Batwoman, elaborate or straightforward or otherwise, lays behind a super-secret special diary requiring a super-secret cipher and the only to get it is a ridiculous shock treatment torture death device.
One has to expect and account for some level of silliness given the source material. But this is childishly absurd.
One has to expect and account for some level of silliness given the source material. But this is childishly absurd.
A criminal was close to doing that a couple of episodes ago, and I wanted the writers to explore the flaw in that superhero costuming tradition. Unless you have the speed and reflexes of a Captain America, an ordinary human like Kate would--should seek some way to protect the exposed part of her mask.