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Spoilers Batwoman - Season 1

Batwoman
Season 1 - Episode 17 - "A Narrow Escape"


Kate/BW/Luke: Good that she showrunners are not letting her guilt / PTSD for murdering Cartwright just fade away...along with her violence. As usual, her relationship with Luke is the best thing about the series, with both suffering, full of doubt and not fond of the silence / distance between the two. Theirs is the backbone of the series, and I look forward to their growing closer.

"You're fast--but not that fast"
Nice. He knows Batwoman's skill set as well as she does.

She broke part of her PTSD by admitting--finally--that she murdered Cartwright, which brought Luke out of his own march toward the unthinkable.

No surprise the Wayne building had full lockdown tech...but the CG shutters were dodgy as Hell.

Jacob / Detonator: So Robles was picking up where the original left off--and getting rid of anyone who could tie him (and his benefactor) to the Fox murder / framing of Reggie Harris His modus operandi--making so-called heroes prove it by self sacrifice over letting others die--was an interesting plot device, and yes, its there as a mirror to Kate not feeling she was worthy of wearing the suit.

Alice / Mouse: I thought she was having some sort of hallucination or treatment (about a dream that should never, ever become a reality), but it was surprising to see conflict with Mouse, though it was destined be short-lived. If the series is honest, her eventual escape from Arkham cannot go back to her quest to convince Kate she's no different while focusing on Jacob as if he acted alone.

Mary:
"I'm the last person [she] would confide in." Boo hoo. Kate or her costumed half owes her nothing. She is so tiresome with that self-pitying crap. All of her personal stories is nothing one would use to identify the ID of anyone else. Unnecessary burden.

NOTES: Snapping believability to the point of snapping: that explosion should have killed Kate, Mary and everyone else in that dump. No one can survive a close quarters detonation of that scale whether they were wearing protection or not.

Alice's "surgical skills" would not be able to skin one face and place it on another. Aside from the gruesome nature of the act, its never sold as even remotely possible--especially on a more grounded series like this one.

So, Batman killed the Joker 5 years earlier. That explains at least part of his reasons for leaving Gotham.

GRADE: A.
 
The Detonator's MO is reminiscent of the Joker's climactic game in The Dark Knight. Ironic that the GCPD cop here had less heroism than a hardened criminal there.

Why didn't Sophie wonder how Luke knew the real Detonator was dead, when the cops and Crows didn't know who the Detonator was?

I'm glad Mary and Kate finally got it all out in the open, and it was a pleasant surprise that it came in a context where Mary was supportive of Kate rather than betrayed and angry.


Uhh, did Luke just imply Bruce killed Joker?

That seems to be the implication. He even quoted Nietzsche's abyss line, resonating with Conroy-Bruce's similar line about becoming a monster in Crisis. It sounds like Bruce-Prime crossed the same line, and it drove him to resign, rather than letting himself become what his counterpart became. The producers said that Kate meeting alt-Bruce in Crisis would set her arc in motion for the rest of the season, and we're seeing that happen now.

But of course, reports of the Joker's death tend to be greatly exaggerated. Coming back from apparently certain death has been a Joker trademark for 80 years.

It's interesting to compare this to the 2002 Birds of Prey TV series, another show in which Batman had fled Gotham (or New Gotham as it was called there) and been replaced by the female title character(s). There, it was because Batman didn't kill the Joker that the latter was able to kill Catwoman and paralyze Barbara Gordon, and that was what broke Bruce and caused him to leave.
 
for some stupid reason, Canada didn't get the new episode of Batwoman last night so we're gonna be a week behind.
 
The Detonator's MO is reminiscent of the Joker's climactic game in The Dark Knight. Ironic that the GCPD cop here had less heroism than a hardened criminal there.

I always figured the Joker was lying and each detonator controlled it's own boat's bomb, because that'd be funny. Or, you know, "funny."

I'm glad Mary and Kate finally got it all out in the open, and it was a pleasant surprise that it came in a context where Mary was supportive of Kate rather than betrayed and angry.

I kind of hoped Luke would go for Alfred's Hail-Mary play from the animated series, whenever someone new was in the Bat Cave; "It appears you've found our little secret here at Wayne Manor. Yes, it's true: I am Batman."

It's interesting that Tommy Elliot (of all people) has turned out to be the string-puller behind all of this. I wonder if they're setting up for a second season where Bruce Wayne returns (similarly to how Superman began appearing in the second season of Supergirl), but it's actually Elliot. It'd also tie in with all the face-swapping and Alice's plans to take control of Arkham (maybe the king she tipped over at the end represented Bruce, and not Mouse).
 
IIt'd also tie in with all the face-swapping and Alice's plans to take control of Arkham (maybe the king she tipped over at the end represented Bruce, and not Mouse).
Perhaps its a reference to both: Batman being a "king" in the sense that he's responsible for so many Arkham residents (and by association with Kate, Alice's life is taken away from her by another "Bat"), and Mouse, who I feel might end up being surplus to requirements, as her sister obsession is the last thing he's interested in, and might stand up for himself and assert a right to his own destiny....unless he's a complete lackey.
 
Why didn't they question how Alice got that cut....without looking for what might have been responsible??? The nurses and the doctor(s) would have suspected a shiv...??
 
Why didn't they question how Alice got that cut....without looking for what might have been responsible??? The nurses and the doctor(s) would have suspected a shiv...??

I'm sure Tommy Elliot got a thorough inspection off screen.
 
There's almost certainly a system in place where the orderlies get a pay off, instead of repremanding Tommy.

Unless Hush lost his fortune.
 
for some stupid reason, Canada didn't get the new episode of Batwoman last night so we're gonna be a week behind.
I know there's a separatist movement in Quebec, but we're still in Canada. My PVR had it from Sunday night (just watched it now). To keep with the theme of the season--curiouser and curiouser. ;)
 
I know there's a separatist movement in Quebec, but we're still in Canada. My PVR had it from Sunday night (just watched it now). To keep with the theme of the season--curiouser and curiouser. ;)

think my tv provide (cogeco) needs kick or two.

no Batwoman recorded on Sunday, no Legends last night.

Guess they can't label their fucking programs correctly.
 
no Batwoman recorded on Sunday, no Legends last night.
I'm with Bell and Legends wasn't set to record for me either. So I don't think it was your provider's fault.

If I look at the episode info, it has the right name and number, but the 'Original air date' is listed as March 31st, not April 28th. I'm guessing that confused the PVR. Luckily I noticed it wasn't set to record and manually fixed it.

Batwoman however I have set to record on CW (PIX11), and it recorded fine.
 
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I was googling to see if DVD is finally dead, and the googling told-me that Samsung stopped making new Blu-Ray players a year ago, so DVD may out live Bluray?

They will both hang in there for another ten years.

They should have called the blu-ray disks bat-disks.
 
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