Balance of terror, balance of evidence?

[Nerys Myk]

Which could be an altered time line from the original as I've said a few times before?
JB

Only if errors in a reference book counts as anything.

 

[johnnybear]

Which is what I've been saying all along!
JB

 

[Nerys Myk]

Which is what I've been saying all along!
JB

That errors in a reference book count?????

 

[johnnybear]

References in a book, novel or whatever can't be canon! Bit like Enterprise I guess!
JB

 

[johnnybear]

You answered my last post before I could get to it due to a computer gremlin I'm afraid!
JB

 

[Nerys Myk]

References in a book, novel or whatever can't be canon! Bit like Enterprise I guess!
JB

Nothing like Enterprise. Hate all you want, but don't pull that "not canon" bullshit. Me I don't like Voyager. But it's canon.

 

[johnnybear]

Language!!! I don't mind Voyager myself but disliked Entyprise! Besides we're supposed to be debating TOS and not the other shows I thought!
JB

 

[Nerys Myk]

Language!!! I don't mind Voyager myself but disliked Entyprise! Besides we're supposed to be debating TOS and not the other shows I thought!
JB

We can curse. We can discuss ENT in relationship to TOS. It's not preschool and the walls between forums aren't that solid.

 

[johnnybear]

But I don't want to discuss ENT!
JB

 

[Nerys Myk]

But I don't want to discuss ENT!
JB

Then don't bring it up.

 

[johnnybear]

I won't don't worry!
JB

 

[Nyotarules]

Well, regardless it still fits with what Spock says in TUC about how they were enemies for 70 years. They were clearly not some new enemy just encountered only recently.

Well the crew of the USS Anothership talked about them all the time....

 

[Nerys Myk]

Well the crew of the USS Anothership talked about them all the time....

Captain Thatguy has many tales.

 

[Shawnster]

Let's face it, The Klingons were created for one story back in 67 and they became a popular villain. They weren't mentioned before that because they hadn't been invented!
JB

I read that the Romulans were intended to be the main villain but the ears were going to prove too expensive. The Klingons were created to replace the Romulans as the main villain. The Klingons appeared 7 times in TOS - 6 in actual form and 1 in the Excaliban' recreation of Kahless. Harve Bennett felt the Klingons were enough established as the main villain to have them be the ships in the Kobyashi Maru (and that also saved FX money to re-use the Klingons from TMP) and STIII.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I read that the Romulans were intended to be the main villain but the ears were going to prove too expensive.

Do what they did in BOT. Helmets for the background. Ears for the main.

 

[Anwar]

I read that the Romulans were intended to be the main villain but the ears were going to prove too expensive.

How are pointed ears more expensive that the wannabe Mongol looks given to every Klingon?

 

[FormerLurker]

The latex and the molding process take both time and money that gluing hair (on the main characters) and the swarthy makeup don't. The makeup is pennies per application, for instance, while each pair of ears cost hundreds in manhours and materials.

 

[Shawnster]

Does anyone have a link to the call sheets (or whatever they are) for Shatner and Nimoy? They list the schedule and the times the actors needed to be on set at the start of the day and when their makeup was applied, etc... I believe Nimoy had to be there earlier than Shatner.

Of course, Shatner wasn't made up with a swarthy look and facial hair. It might give us a clue, however, to the time it took to make someone look Vulcan (or Romulan).

And all that goes out the window by the move and TNG era when the Klingons gained a much more involved makeup process.

 

[Forbin]

Of course, Shatner wasn't made up with a swarthy look and facial hair.

Well, not facial hair.

 

[johnnybear]

Don't forget that Tige Andrews, William Campbell, Michael Pataki and their crew avoided the heathen look due to an error in the makeup department!
JB