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Bad Starship Names

i doubt that - imagine a (real live) uss nixon or uss trump

Fair, although the US Navy only has 485 ships to name (and probably only 50 that would be worthy of a President's name), whereas Starfleet probably has 10,000 starships and over 100,000 total named ships when you count all the fighters, shuttles and transports with names.
 
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you sure of this?

Yes. I could find no record of such a ship, and Arnold's name is so universally reviled among Americans of all political persuasions that the chances of him ever getting a ship named after him are zero.

You are however quite right to note how offensive it is that the traitorous slaver Robert E. Lee had a ship named after him.

Lee may have been a confederate but I would hazard a guess that he still has more honor to his name than Arnold, who was a flat-out traitor.

Lee was a flat-out traitor and a slaver. He betrayed his country to serve an illegitimate, anti-democratic slaver regime. It is shameful that the Navy ever named a ship after him.
 
I used to think that way. Now i'm not so sure.

As loath as I am to admit it...sometimes things aren't quite so black & white. :lol:
U.S. Code Title 18 §2381 said:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
seems to be a clearcut thing to me

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Yes. I could find no record of such a ship, and Arnold's name is so universally reviled among Americans of all political persuasions that the chances of him ever getting a ship named after him are zero.
my link is to the uss robert e lee so you do name ships (and big ones) after traitors. i can't see a difference between lee and arnold when it comes to treason.
 
Well, one would hope that the Federation would never have a president as bad as [Nixon or Trump].
Nixon was far from as bad as many paint him to be, and far from even being America's second worst President (Cf Andrew Johnson, James Buchanan, Herbert Hoover, and George W. Bush, among many others). There is some evidence that Kennedy was as guilty of spying on his political enemies as Nixon was, and he's (very justifiably) beloved. (I will note that I am in partial, but far from complete, agreement with the Siena College Research Institute poll that CBS News quoted on the subject, back in September.)

The very worst thing Nixon did was to set the country on a course leading directly to Trump. And he didn't do that by spying on his enemies; he did that by getting caught spying on his enemies. Which led to the Carter Presidency (well-meaning but far too naive; he accomplished far more good as a former President than he ever did as a sitting President), which led to the Reagan Presidency, which started the slow decline of the Republican Party from the party of Abraham Lincoln, Theodore Roosevelt, and Dwight Eisenhower into a party of reactionary extremists that put Trump (their willing puppet) into the White House, and is still trying to put him back into the White House.
 
We've had shuttles and starships named after genocidal conquerors like Columbus and Cortez (although the latter is a rather common surname, so perhaps there was a more respectable historical figure with that name in the 21st or 22nd century).
The director of the first two Harry Potter movies was Chris Columbus. So obviously, whoever in Starfleet authorized the names of these shuttles and starships was a fan of late-20th/early-21st century fantasy movies.

I think there was a Trek ship called the Beagle. Named after Darwin's research ship, or after Archer's pooch?
Snoopy, of course! ;)

(fun fact: Waaay back in the '70s, there was a cute comic strip in some of the old print fanzines that featured the Peanuts characters as Vulcan children. Even Snoopy had pointed ears and eyebrows. If memory serves, the title of this strip was Sp'Charliebrownak)

Perhaps "Omaha Nebraska" was actually the name or nom de guerre of some heroic figure in Starfleet history, whose name just happened to sound like a geographic location similar to Indiana Jones or Carmen Sandiego or something.

Kor
The USS Carmen Sandiego's computer, of course, is voiced by Rockapella, and sings every single response in perfect harmony. :lol:

I can see it now... the captain orders a pursuit of an alien ship, and the computer chimes in with "Ooh... the CHASE!"

generally mythologies are the "safest" option to name ships.
CAPTAIN: "This is Captain ____ of the Federation starship USS Cupid..."

For some reason or another, this one popped into my head. It might work for some alien language.

Sesame Street: ABC-DEF-GHI Song - YouTube
ZED! :scream:

If/when the Ferengi join the Federation, maybe capitalism would make a comeback and we'd see ships with corporate sponsors/names.

USS Barbie, USS Walmart, USS Slug-o-Cola, USS Come-to-Quark's-Quark's-is-Fun-Come-Right-Now-Don't-Walk-Run

And could you imagine sponsors placing their logos on the sides of ships, like Nascar? :lol:
Given Nog's exemplary service in Starfleet, I can see a starship being named USS Root Beer.

Well from Picard's language and mannerisms we could assume that England at some point between now and the early 24th century conquers France :lol:
Why? I just reckoned that Picard attended a snooty boarding school in the UK and during the years he was there, he acquired the local accent.

With her platinum jubilee fast approaching and reaching such a milestone would good old Lizzie get a ship named after her, or would they have to have the Queen Elizabeth I first before launching the Queen Elizabeth II?
They wouldn't need to address Queen Elizabeth I first, I don't think. After all, she'd have been dead for 800 years by that time and wouldn't be around to object.

If they did name ships after the various queens named Elizabeth, it would go something like:

1. USS Good Queen Bess
2. USS Queen Mum (not a queen regnant, but can't ignore QEII's mother)
3. USS QEII;
4. (alternatively) USS Lillibet

Yep, Best Destiny.

Any particular reason Diane Carey is significant here? :confused:
She had a lamentable habit of inserting her own personal politics and other snarky opinions into the story, usually by claiming that it's what Kirk thought, or how Janeway thought. It's really off-putting.

USS Yarrr
Ah, the ship where the crew dons pirate costumes whenever it's September 19th on Earth!
 
Hmmm....

USS Parliament
USS Commons
USS Congress
USS Senate
USS Council
USS Commission
USS Assembly
USS Bundestag
USS Bundesrat
USS Storting
USS Staten-Generaal
USS Kamer
USS Alþingi
USS Riksdag
USS Folketing
USS Oireachtas
USS Dáil
USS Seanad
USS Rada
USS Landtag
USS Majlis
USS Knesset
USS Sejm
USS Zbor
USS Svet
USS Bunge
USS Duma
USS Soviet
USS Bundesversammlung

For the USS Parliament's sister ships, I was thinking more along the lines of:

USS Chesterfield
USS Marlboro
USS Viceroy
USS Salem
USS Winston
USS Kent
USS Tareyton
USS Lark
USS Camel
USS Kool
USS Lucky Strike
USS Old Gold

Maybe my age is showing . . .
 
Conversely, I think the Culture might view the Federation as a well-intentioned, yet still slightly immature society that takes itself far too seriously and doesn't yet dare to take action where it should (Prime Directive and such).

Ah, Special Circumstances.

I love that universe. Love those books. A Culture reread is long overdue:
 
I used to think that way. Now i'm not so sure.

As loath as I am to admit it...sometimes things aren't quite so black & white. :lol:

No, with Robert E. Lee it really is that black and white. He betrayed his country to serve a white supremacist regime that was founded for the sole and explicit purpose of perpetuating the institution of chattel slavery. He should no more be venerated than a Nazi.

my link is to the uss robert e lee so you do name ships (and big ones) after traitors. i can't see a difference between lee and arnold when it comes to treason.

Oh, I'm not arguing the U.S. Navy does not name ships after traitors. Clearly it did, and it's shameful. I'm arguing that the U.S. Navy will never name a ship after Benedict Arnold in particular, because there's no one trying to whitewash his memory like with Lee.

Nixon was far from as bad as many paint him to be,

Do you think the loved ones of the people he murdered in Cambodia agree?
 
The USS Minnow
USS Clampett - although, except for that one time Jed was shooting at some food he could be standing by his front door and shoot the wings off a fly that was on the fence.
USS Endora
USS Norm! (Norman.)
 
I used to think that way. Now i'm not so sure.

As loath as I am to admit it...sometimes things aren't quite so black & white. :lol:

I think it is pretty black and white, assuming you agree that the US Constitution applied in 1861.

It would have been interesting if the USN still had a USS Robert E Lee in service recently... the Navy considers renaming boats unlucky, but they'd probably be under huge pressure to do so.

Two of the US Navy's active nuclear supercarriers are named after thoroughly white supremacist, segregationist politicians.

Nixon was far from as bad as many paint him to be [...]

I think the opposite, he's worse than is usually remembered today. A lot of people think, yeah, Watergate. Far fewer think of the covered-up illegal bombing of Cambodia. The secret talks with North Vietnam while a candidate. The vice president literally taking envelopes of cash in his office. The shady money and mob connections for the Florida house. The Fielding office break-in and planned Brookings break-in ("I want it implemented on a thievery basis. Goddamn it, get in and get those files. Blow the safe and get it!"). $400,000 in unpaid (evaded?) taxes. The ITT scandal. The Vesco scandal. It was as put-and-out criminal a presidency as there has ever been.
 
Doubtful. The UK might be tempted, since he went over to them, but it would probably be deemed not politic, them being our closest ally and all.
He's famous in the US not the UK. Had to look up who he was when Riker mentioned him in a Trek comic (from context treachery was obvious, but details).
 
Another very good question to me is Kelvar Leonard Garth of Izar, who to date has only appeared in one episode but is so beloved by the fandom that he almost became the main character of Alec Peters's much-maligned project.
 
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