Bad Starship Names
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It exists only in the 2006 video game Legacy.
Definitely non-canonical, and I doubt it ever will be.
At least it wasn't the U.S.S. Nathan Bedford Forrest.
Definitely. There should be ships named after important, broadly positive historical figures from all of the Federation's Member worlds, but especially from the other founding Members.
I used to feel that way, but lately I find I prefer it if they use a full name instead of just someone's last name when they name a ship after a person. I'd rather see the USS Michael Harrington than the USS Harrington, for instance.
Those are awful, yeah.
Clearly it's a ship from the Arnold Schwarzenegger class! Serving proudly alongside the USS Conan the Barbarian, the USS Total Recall, the USS True Lies, the USS Judgment Day, and the USS Jingle All the Way!
Not trying to defend an awful name like that, but I assume that happened in the 70s/80s/90s when that whole "Lost Cause" myth (that the civil war was purely about state rights) was still alive in popular culture and that name was still deemed acceptable to many people. I mean that was still a world when X-Men comics had Rogue fantasize a whole dream sequence about the "romantic" Old South
I mean with the things we know and have acknowledged today a USS Columbus is just as unfortunate a name
I would certainly hope the Federation wouldn't name a ship after a man who literally fed infants to dogs.
You got wafers with it?
One of the High Schools where I grew up was James Lick. He was a pretty big deal.
Oh, come on, we really should have a USS Heidegger, I mean his contributions to hermeneutics and existentialism are enormous and of undeniable value. Who cares that he was a member of the Nazi Party and reported his own Jewish colleagues and students to the Gestapo? After all, being a Nazi was pretty much the way things were in 1930s German academia, and Context is for Kings.
Ew Columbus just gets "lovelier" each time I hear something new about him. I already knew that he was a brutal invader and enslaved Native Americans, hence why I said that nobody in their right mind would name a Star Trek ship "USS Columbus" these days, but that's even more disgusting.
It was generally just an example that just a few decades ago, people didn't think that much about naming ships after people like that, and that a lot of the information about the awful things they did wasn't available/deliberately kept under wraps.
Bad enough that they named a Final Fantasy VII character after him. Granted the character's a villain, but still. Of course it's a fairly old, Japanese name so the developers probably just thought the name was cool, but they kept it in the recent remake.
Different times, different mores. Though it's interesting to note that, even back then, they knew well enough to steer clear of any German ship names.
It's an interesting psychological blind spot.
Regarding German ship names, I'd totally be down with everybody involved in the July 20 Plot (to assassinate Hitler) having a ship named after them:
USS Stauffenberg
USS Tresckow
USS Olbricht
USS Ludwig Beck
USS Goerdeler
USS Witzleben
USS Quirnheim
USS Haeften
USS Fellgiebel
USS Oster
USS Canaris
There are others, but those are the ones I thought of.
Also, the dedication plaques of every one of these ships would have the exact same motto on them. It's taken from the German Resistance memorial in Berlin:
You did not bear the shame.
You resisted.
You bestowed the eternally vigilant signal to turn back
By sacrificing your impassioned lives for freedom, justice and honor.
And if you don't know who those men are, or what the July 20 Plot was all about:
ing look it up.
USS Stauffenberg
USS Tresckow
USS Olbricht
USS Ludwig Beck
USS Goerdeler
USS Witzleben
USS Quirnheim
USS Haeften
USS Fellgiebel
USS Oster
USS Canaris
There are others, but those are the ones I thought of.
Also, the dedication plaques of every one of these ships would have the exact same motto on them. It's taken from the German Resistance memorial in Berlin:
You did not bear the shame.
You resisted.
You bestowed the eternally vigilant signal to turn back
By sacrificing your impassioned lives for freedom, justice and honor.
And if you don't know who those men are, or what the July 20 Plot was all about:
ing look it up.
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Contemplating a trip to Germany later in the year, with Berlin being one of the places on my list to go to, will definitely spend some time taking this memorial in.
I don't know if there will be an Oktoberfest this year, but if there is, head over to Munich and check that out as well.
Berlin is a fine city and all that, but Munich at the height of the Oktoberfest...that's something special.
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USS Intrepid
why would an all Vulcan crew ship have an Earth name?
USS Surak would be better
why would an all Vulcan crew ship have an Earth name?
USS Surak would be better
They still wanted to keep all the land and nations Nazi Germany annexed, and their political views was not exactly bastion of a democratic Germany, so maybe not....Regarding German ship names, I'd totally be down with everybody involved in the July 20 Plot (to assassinate Hitler) having a ship named after them:
USS Stauffenberg
USS Tresckow
USS Olbricht
USS Ludwig Beck
USS Goerdeler
USS Witzleben
USS Quirnheim
USS Haeften
USS Fellgiebel
USS Oster
USS Canaris
There are others, but those are the ones I thought of.
Also, the dedication plaques of every one of these ships would have the exact same motto on them. It's taken from the German Resistance memorial in Berlin:
You did not bear the shame.
You resisted.
You bestowed the eternally vigilant signal to turn back
By sacrificing your impassioned lives for freedom, justice and honor.
And if you don't know who those men are, or what the July 20 Plot was all about:
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^ Those men were not Nazis. Not even close.
Intrepid: extremely brave and showing no fear of dangerous situations (Cambridge English Dictionary)
Sounds like it would most definitely apply to Vulcans, who control and suppress their emotions therefore show no fear no matter what situation they face.
It may not have initially been crewed by all Vulcans when named/launched. Perhaps the Vulcans were honoring the intentions of the ship's christener?
Sister ships including the U.S.S. Salsa, U.S.S. Guacamole and U.S.S. Sour Cream.
