Semantics? Avenging sounds more justice seeking than vengeance, which has connotations of seeking to hurt someone who hurt you to get even and then some.
Bad Starship Names
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Semantics? Avenging sounds more justice seeking than vengeance, which has connotations of seeking to hurt someone who hurt you to get even and then some.
Vengeance: punishment inflicted or retribution exacted for an injury or wrong:
Avenging: inflict harm in return for (an injury or wrong done to oneself or another):
I don't see the difference here. The root idea is the same of pursuit of the most basic sense of justice: eye for an eye, which was part of the Code of Hammurabi, if I recall correctly.
I suppose it depends who you ask.
I tend to ask the dictionary.
Choosing names for things is so tricky, because what/who/where/when we value changes for various reasons. You almost need to put a disclaimer on the starship's name plaque, explaining what it is about the person/place/thing is being celebrated.
True! But, one would hope that the name would make sense in the history of the ship as part of the service. Kind of like United States Marines receive a basic understanding of the Corps history. There is a certain level of pride that goes in to that process and training. The TMP Enterprise actually does a good job with that in showcasing the ships named Enterprise. I would hope most Starfleet vessels would have that.
Choosing names for things is so tricky, because what/who/where/when we value changes for various reasons. You almost need to put a disclaimer on the starship's name plaque, explaining what it is about the person/place/thing is being celebrated.
Ask a Spanish speaker and the name is " Vengador". Italian "Vendicatore". French "Vengeur"
Hey!
srsly tho, I agree, they should have just used USS Omaha or USS Nebraska. Or both.
But what the hell, it was only a barely legible Okudagram anyway.
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Worst plausible name I can possibly think of is the USS Taft. It would probably get stuck in a starbase repair bay
Choosing names for things is so tricky, because what/who/where/when we value changes for various reasons. You almost need to put a disclaimer on the starship's name plaque, explaining what it is about the person/place/thing is being celebrated.
So true. Always a dilemma.
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A name I've used before in a story: the Victorious Secret. 
I dunno. The USS Pygmalion or the USS Arachne don't exactly roll off the tongue.
Regarding the Akagi, according to the Audio commentary for Redemption, Ronald D. Moore said he thought the name was fitting, as both the USS Enterprise and USS Hornet were involved at the Battle of Midway where the Akagi was sunk, while here in the 24th Century, they're working together.
https://memory-alpha.fandom.com/wiki/USS_Akagi#Background_information
Akagi was also a name considered for a Japanese named ship in TOS, but they eventually settled on Kongo.
The Halo series also have some interesting ship names
https://www.halopedia.org/UNSC_starship#Types
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A lot of the names listed for Dreadnought-class ships in the Franz Joseph Technical Manual are pretty silly:
USS Association
USS Affiliation
USS Corporation
USS Konkordium
USS Organization
USS Star Empire
USS Star League
USS Star System
USS Trusteeship
USS Association
USS Affiliation
USS Corporation
USS Konkordium
USS Organization
USS Star Empire
USS Star League
USS Star System
USS Trusteeship
I suspect that the name USS Vengeance might have been a reference to the working title of The Wrath of Khan, which was The Vengeance of Khan.
It was designed by Khan Noonien Singh. Scenery chewing over the topness applied not only to his scenes, but his starship naming too.
I dunno, is USS Vengeance really any worse than a lot of British ship names? HMS Indefatigable, HMS Onslaught, HMS Conqueror, HMS Revenge, HMS Victorious, HMS Invincible... Including HMS Vengeance (S31), a Vanguard-class ballistic missile submarine that carries the Trident nuclear missile.
