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Babylon 5

I really liked Captain Gideon a great deal. Gary Cole played him very well. Only a few years before, he played the lead on AMERICAN GOTHIC, another underrated show. He was great there, too.
I like Gary Cole too. To be clear I wasn't shitting on him or Crusade in general (which I haven't watched yet), I was talking about Dylan Neal from Legend of the Rangers.
 
I like Gary Cole too. To be clear I wasn't shitting on him or Crusade in general (which I haven't watched yet), I was talking about Dylan Neal from Legend of the Rangers.
Ah, okay. Yeah, I was not impressed with Dylan Neal on LEGEND OF THE RANGERS, either. Frankly, I wasn't that impressed with any of the cast, except G'Kar. (Always loved his character.)
 
I always thought the gun pod would have worked better if she just stood there and pointed imperiously. Now I see they considered and rejected that in favor of the Kung Fu. Oy Vey.
 
Ah, okay. Yeah, I was not impressed with Dylan Neal on LEGEND OF THE RANGERS, either. Frankly, I wasn't that impressed with any of the cast, except G'Kar. (Always loved his character.)

I started noticing him in Blood Ties, as sexy human in a love triangle with two super natural creatures, but I think he comparatively shone in Arrow.
 
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I always thought the gun pod would have worked better if she just stood there and pointed imperiously. Now I see they considered and rejected that in favor of the Kung Fu. Oy Vey.
I would have paid good money to see the weapons system tied to poses that would make Gloria Swanson jealous.

Alternately: Disco.
 
I haven't seen Legend of the Rangers, but I was just looking for a trailer on Youtube and I stumbled across the gun pod scene, and wow that was really bad.
I can see where it might have sounded like an interesting idea in theory, but it really didn't work in practice. I think it could have worked a little better if it had been a one on one battle, so it felt more like her actually fighting against an enemy rather than her just randomly punching and kicking nothing. Or if they had gone with what someone up thread said the originally idea was and just had her pointing.
 
It's especially bad in the big battle where she ends up screaming and punching and kicking wildly. It just looks like someone having a weird tantrum.
 
It's especially bad in the big battle where she ends up screaming and punching and kicking wildly. It just looks like someone having a weird tantrum.

But if one is a fat fuck who can't get up one flight of steps without almost pooping himself to death...

This person is not going to be hanging in a fire fight very long.
 
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Exactly my thought watching it recently. Why would you build a weapons system that requires so much physical exertion? It's insanity.
 
Exactly my thought watching it recently. Why would you build a weapons system that requires so much physical exertion? It's insanity.

If this was a show made in the 1950s, I would suspect that it is a trick to keep unmarried women thin, in preparation for their wedding night.
 
Legend of the Rangers, was about introducing a new enemy, and not about a weapon system on an old minbari ship. When i watched it for the first time and since i never focused on that, but instead on a new mysterious threat.

It could have worked as a mini serise because the plot of the story was too shallow to make it in to a whole tv show, same for Crusade.
JMS did really good with short stand alone stories, like my favorite Thirdspace and In the Begining. If they made Crusade and LOTR in the same format it would have worked i think.
 
It could have worked as a mini serise because the plot of the story was too shallow to make it in to a whole tv show, same for Crusade.
Right, which is why the plague plot was planned to be wrapped up in season 2. It wasn't all the story was about, just like not all that B5 was about was evident at the start.
 
JMS may not have intended the weapon system to be what grabbed people's attention and stuck in their minds, but it's what absolutely everyone was thinking about afterwards.
 
JMS may not have intended the weapon system to be what grabbed people's attention and stuck in their minds, but it's what absolutely everyone was thinking about afterwards.

A sweaty beautiful woman in tight clothing contorting her body and grunting?

It was pg13 porn.
 
Indeed, if the weapon system wasn't intended to be a big deal, why even bother fleshing it out and then emphasizing it as they did?
 
Right, which is why the plague plot was planned to be wrapped up in season 2. It wasn't all the story was about, just like not all that B5 was about was evident at the start.
You miss understood, when i said mini series, i meant a 2-4 episodes max, no seasons. Neither Crusade or LOTR had enough plots going to make a good series like Babylon 5 was.

B5 from the season 1 had: Narn - Centauri, Telepath, Earth President, Babylon 4/Epsilon 3, Shadows/Vorlons, Minbari, First Ones, Earth-Minbari War plots.
Season 1 must have been super exciting to watch for the first time with sooo many stories taking their root there and then solving them all in the next seasons that followed. And i am now glad it didn't dragged too long like DS9/Voyager/TNG. It's really hard to rewatch long tv series.
Out of all Star Trek shows i only rewatched Voyager fully once, while Babylon 5 at least 3 or 4 times. And sometimes you get the desire to rewatch them, but once you remember it's 7 seasons long - no way i have that much time.
 
Out of all Star Trek shows i only rewatched Voyager fully once, while Babylon 5 at least 3 or 4 times. And sometimes you get the desire to rewatch them, but once you remember it's 7 seasons long - no way i have that much time.
Watching B5 four times is twenty seasons. You could almost watch all of TNG, DS9, and VOY in the same amount of time.

...Just to be clear, I'm not saying you have to or even should...but clearly you do have that much time. ;)
 
I like Gary Cole too. To be clear I wasn't shitting on him or Crusade in general (which I haven't watched yet), I was talking about Dylan Neal from Legend of the Rangers.
He was terrific in Midnight caller, American Gothic, West Wing and Good Fight. Sadly I wouldn't count Crusade among his greats, mainly due to material he was given.
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