I have just come to the end of Season 2 and Wow....... What a bloody ride? That was awesome.
Babylon 5
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I've watch the last episode of B5 last week with my wife, she cried the whole episode 
Sometimes I wished that I could do that
Sometimes I wished that I could do that
I've watch the last episode of B5 last week with my wife, she cried the whole episode
Sometimes I wished that I could do that
Yeah if you meant "Sleeping In Light" that was sad.... The whole last 5 episodes were sad. For me for a month or two after the show I actually woke up in the morning just to watch the sun rise.....
The way they did the show though, the end of season 4 could have been a final episode as well the way it worked..
Actually now starting season 3...
One thing that did feel terribly cliched to me was the whole Nightwatch thing. I know what they were trying to say with this plot thread but it wasn't very subtle, nor very original. Obviously Earth had never learnt any lessons from past history. This was clearly the Nazi brownshirts and Hitler youth in space..
One thing that did feel terribly cliched to me was the whole Nightwatch thing. I know what they were trying to say with this plot thread but it wasn't very subtle, nor very original. Obviously Earth had never learnt any lessons from past history. This was clearly the Nazi brownshirts and Hitler youth in space..
Also keep in mind that to those living in the mid 2200's, World War II is over three centuries in the past and as such about as distant in memory as the Nine Years War and the Jacobite Rebellion is today. Not exactly obscure, but certainly faded and only really understood in detail by history buffs.
Remember that this is a society that just a decade ago, found itself staring into the abyss of total extinction courtesy of the Minbari, right after riding high on a wave of military superiority against the Dilgar. Pretty much the same combination of self-righteous arrogance and paranoia that produced McCarthyism, to say nothing of recent (and current!) events.
Remember that this is a society that just a decade ago, found itself staring into the abyss of total extinction courtesy of the Minbari, right after riding high on a wave of military superiority against the Dilgar. Pretty much the same combination of self-righteous arrogance and paranoia that produced McCarthyism, to say nothing of recent (and current!) events.
Yeah I could easily see Trump right at home with the Nightwatch and Ministry Of Peace..
Joseph McCarthy would have loved them.
Joseph McCarthy would have loved them.
One of the themes of B5 is that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it. Its cautionary stories about civil war, being caught between two extremist ideologies, and Byron's self-destruction are certainly resonating strongly now as well.
For anyone that might know..
What is the purpose of the docking bay on the top of the station and why is that different to the one in the centre of the spinning part of the station? Do they both lead to the same areas?
Also some of the scaling seems off sometimes. The docking ports seem huge, and at other times they seem pretty smallish......
Also what's with the travel tubes? Aren't they just elevators that go up and down?
What is the purpose of the docking bay on the top of the station and why is that different to the one in the centre of the spinning part of the station? Do they both lead to the same areas?
Also some of the scaling seems off sometimes. The docking ports seem huge, and at other times they seem pretty smallish......
Also what's with the travel tubes? Aren't they just elevators that go up and down?
I guess that's a zero-G docking bay for non-passenger cargo.
Yes, the scale is often off -- in particular with the star furies. Artistic licence.
By travel tubes, I assume you mean the lifts/elevators in the internal radial struts used to transport people between the core longitudinal transport system and the floor or between different floors of other sectors? I presume the system used autonomously driven pods rather than a winch system but I don't recall seeing any evidence to decide this.
It's a pity that the inside open areas of the station weren't seen more often but CGI probably wasn't really up to it at the time and/or was too expensive.
Yes, the scale is often off -- in particular with the star furies. Artistic licence.
By travel tubes, I assume you mean the lifts/elevators in the internal radial struts used to transport people between the core longitudinal transport system and the floor or between different floors of other sectors? I presume the system used autonomously driven pods rather than a winch system but I don't recall seeing any evidence to decide this.
It's a pity that the inside open areas of the station weren't seen more often but CGI probably wasn't really up to it at the time and/or was too expensive.
I suspect on that last point you are correct.
I hate to imagine what a remake of this great series would be like. They'd probably follow the BSG formula and make everything grungy and shitty.
IIRC there's actually three separate internal transit systems. The core shuttles which run along the axis, the transport tubes that move up and down though the levels and there's a rarely seen train that looks like the core shuttle but runs along the circumference of the cylinder.
^That sounds right to me.
Yeah, the tube elevators definitely don't seem to be akin to turbolifts in the sense of being able to move both horizontally and vertically.
I seem to recall one reason for the two cargo areas was that the one at the top was used for cargo that was to be handled in zero gee, but I have no idea whether that's accurate and/or the intent
Yeah, the tube elevators definitely don't seem to be akin to turbolifts in the sense of being able to move both horizontally and vertically.
I seem to recall one reason for the two cargo areas was that the one at the top was used for cargo that was to be handled in zero gee, but I have no idea whether that's accurate and/or the intent
I could very easily see Clinton being allied with the Shadows. Mr. Morden's "What do you want?" would certainly be easy to answer. She lusts for power and doesn't care who gets hurt because "it doesn't matter anyway."
I don't think B5 will ever not be relevant. There are so many important themes woven through it, and people are still people. Even 500 years after Clark there was an even worse regime on Earth that caused the "Great Burn" so they still didn't learn their lesson.
Folks, with all respect, could we please keep the real-world political discussion to a minimum and false quotes absolutely out? The moderators have enough to do, I'm sure.
JMS has often said that Babylon 5 is about the process of how things come about. In it we see the fairly slow slide of Earth into totalitarianism by the use of unfocused fear of the 'other'. At the time, people tended to poo-poo it and thought JMS was being heavy-handed and that nothing like that could ever happen again.
JMS has often said that Babylon 5 is about the process of how things come about. In it we see the fairly slow slide of Earth into totalitarianism by the use of unfocused fear of the 'other'. At the time, people tended to poo-poo it and thought JMS was being heavy-handed and that nothing like that could ever happen again.
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