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The Quality of Mercy is worth watching as it introduces a plot device used in several future episodes and reveals surprising information about the Centauri male organs of reproduction.
 
IIRC it wasn't WB's decision but Doug Netters'. Penny wise, pound foolish it seems.
If I remember it right, JMS didn't even hear about this until years after the fact and was not impressed. I think he said something to the effect of had he known, he'd have payed for it out of his own pocket if necessary.

This is true. Whether it was Netter or Copeland seems unclear but JMS was told that doing the CGI in wide wasn't possible and he took them at their word.

I'm looking for an episode, and I think I might have missed a couple during my rewatch but which episode did they have Lyta in the sick bay and she spots all the cameras? I remember the doctor changing cameras and each time she turned her head to face them?

Also which episode had June Lockhart (Maureen from Lost In Space) as a guest actor? I'm thinking it was "Believers" because I never really liked that episode the first time and avoided it this time.

Lyta was being held in security when she destroyed the camera. That episode was "Wheel of Fire" when she was talking to Garibaldi and they made a deal about her removing Bester's block.

June Lockhart was in "The Quality of Mercy", the episode where the alien healing device was introduced.

ETA: Oops, sorry - didn't see the other answers that were there first.
 
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Yeah Lyta's Vorlon memory thing explicitly states as such. Remember that the Vorlons aren't the most powerful telepaths around, but they do have stronger, older, more complex minds. Half the reason Vorlons are so cryptic is because it's actually difficult for them to shift their brain down a gear to communicate on our level. It's like trying to explain quantum physics to a squirrel.

For them, telepaths are weapons and they took some steps to make sure those weapons are loyal, hence the whole "beings of light" thing. It's not perfect of course, Lyta was able to hide her surface thoughts from Ulkesh and resist his attempts to open up her mind. The Nephilim were able to fool their Vorlon masters into thinking they'd been successfully wiped out, when in fact many of them survived and they were non-sentient and just acting on pure instinct.
Arg I looked this up and this whole thing about the Nephilim is from a written story, The Nautilus Coil. With tv series, unless it's derived from a book that predates the series, I don't read them (eg, I don't read Star Trek books, but there will be a Wild Cards series and I've read that). But ok good to know. And thanks for the refresh on Lyta's flashbacks. I still may watch it, but I will FF through that painfully embarrassing scene of Zach telling his feelings to Lyta.

But everything we see on the show shows us that even a Vorlon-enhanced Lyta, who is beyond a P12, is no match for a Vorlon mentally and can't possibly hide her thoughts from one. So from what I recall Vorlons are mighty telepaths, which makes the thirdspacers dominating them pretty impressive to me. I don't know if they (Vorlons) can do the things we eventually saw Lyta do, like mind-dominate dozens of people or more simultaneously, but I thought their reason for engineering other races to be telepaths was simply that they preferred to use tools per their semi-agreement with the Shadows for their conflict.
 
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I actually loved "Believers", because I hate religion.
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I'm very religious, relatively speaking, and I loved Believers, too.

That's one of the things I was saying earlier, B5 was really even to everyone.

I've heard "religious" people complain because Garibaldi was atheist.
I've hear atheists complain because of souls like in Soul Hunter.
Some people started claiming Kosh was not only an angel but a specific one like Gabriel.

There's a lot of crazy out there.

And hating is not good for a person, it hurts yourself.
 
I complain when stupidly superstitious people would rather let their child die from a preventable or curable condition. JMS might appreciate that kind of negative reaction to Believers. I see David Gerrold wrote it. I don't know if that has significance.
 
I'm looking for an episode, and I think I might have missed a couple during my rewatch but which episode did they have Lyta in the sick bay and she spots all the cameras? I remember the doctor changing cameras and each time she turned her head to face them?

That scene is in "Thirdspace."
 
Huge B5 fan here. Was wondering if any other B5 geek here knows who Sinclair meant when he said he "found her" in the canon comic. Was it the asian girl?
 
Huge B5 fan here. Was wondering if any other B5 geek here knows who Sinclair meant when he said he "found her" in the canon comic. Was it the asian girl?

That's the way I took it. I think (if memory serves) it was also mentioned in the "To Dream In The City Of Sorrows" novel
 
Huge B5 fan here. Was wondering if any other B5 geek here knows who Sinclair meant when he said he "found her" in the canon comic. Was it the asian girl?

You mean Catherine Sakai, his old girlfriend? That would be one HELL of a coincidence, wouldn't it?
 
That's the way I took it. I think (if memory serves) it was also mentioned in the "To Dream In The City Of Sorrows" novel
Yes, it was Catherine Sakai. There was some confusion because a typo in the comic had Sinclair addressing his message and her name was included but JMS confirmed that they found each other in the past. Details of her going back in 'To Dream in the City of Sorrows". Fun trivia is that this 'fate' is substantially different from the original plan as outlined in a memo JMS wrote between the pilot and first season filming.
 
So basically Catherine Sakai and Sinclair were the ancient ancestors of countless Minbari, including Delenn.
 
So basically Catherine Sakai and Sinclair were the ancient ancestors of countless Minbari, including Delenn.
Yep. Which is why the Minbari elder was so willing to allow Delenn to marry Sheridan after she threatened to go public with the fact that Minbari weren't as 'pure' as they liked to think.
 
Yep. Which is why the Minbari elder was so willing to allow Delenn to marry Sheridan after she threatened to go public with the fact that Minbari weren't as 'pure' as they liked to think.

So Catherine must have somehow gotten ahold of the chrysalis device, amirite?
 
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