There has been some debate over interpreting Londos' 3 chances of redemption.
"You must save the eye that does not see": The eye in "Signs and Portents"? G'Kars' eye? The eye thingy on Z'ha'dum? I'm going with G'Kars' on this one.
"You must not kill the one who is already dead": Sheridan? Morden? Methinks Morden, Sheridan wasn't dead in 2277, unless I'm meant to think outside of the box on this one... plus, Londo let Sheridan escape, and only had him think his death was imminent to please his Keeper, anyway...
"You must surrender yourself to your greatest fear, knowing that it will destroy you. Now if you have failed all the others, that is your final chance for redemption."
that's gotta be either his fear of dying - whether it's straight-out dying, by G'Kars' hands, or fear that his visions of his death would come true... OR losing self-control, by way of being implanted with a keeper. He did, at one point, say that he once had all the choices in the world, but no power - then when becoming emporer, had all the power in the world, but no choices.
What do you think? I'd make this a pull, but don't know how to do multis. Please feel free to heartily disagree with my interpretations!
How I was introduced to B5? It must have been the late 90s', I saw one of the most spoilerific moments of the series purely by chance (Sheridan telling the Shadows and the Vorlons to shove it). I knew that this was a Big Thing, and wanted to see more eps, but somehow didn't get around to it. Didn't even know the name of the show at this point! Earlier this millenium I saw "messages from earth" to "war without end 2", saw that it was quality viewing, but just didn't "get" what was going on, in hindsight, this was obvious, but it didn't really spoil me.
Fast-forward to last year. I'd heard some hype about the series, went over to the lurkers' guide, and found that a string of eps dealt with Garibaldis' drinking problem. "What??? This kinda stuff isn't dealt with in sci-fi!" Then imagine my shock that dead characters stayed dead! I watched every arc ep/ep in bold on the lurkers guide - I think I actually started with the start of S4, then went back to the obvious "WHAM" eps of s1 and 2, and was pretty hooked by season 3. The score for S1, IMHO, was pretty cheesy, but the rest, brilliant. The CGI that people seem to complain about - never really bothered me because the writing was consistent QUALITY. I remember reading that JMS had written virtually every ep of S2-4. Even heard somewhere that someone remarked that you could see the toll it took on him physically, comparing him from a S3 convention to a S4 one, since S4 was flat-out "WHAM" - the fact that one man wrote this epic virtually single-handed just goes to show that JMS is a genius. I don't even have anything negative to say about S5 (apart from it was less arc-based, but most loose ends were tied up previous, anyway)!
Didn't really care for the movies, apart, of course, the pilot and In The Beginning. The Lost Tales was a bit 50/50, I didn't like "over here", but "over there" was a lot better, if only to see Sheridan again.
Sorry to ramble on, I just thought this thread was as good a place as any other to share my B5 experience. Please do ask for my opinion on different episodes if you feel inclined.
"You must save the eye that does not see": The eye in "Signs and Portents"? G'Kars' eye? The eye thingy on Z'ha'dum? I'm going with G'Kars' on this one.
"You must not kill the one who is already dead": Sheridan? Morden? Methinks Morden, Sheridan wasn't dead in 2277, unless I'm meant to think outside of the box on this one... plus, Londo let Sheridan escape, and only had him think his death was imminent to please his Keeper, anyway...
"You must surrender yourself to your greatest fear, knowing that it will destroy you. Now if you have failed all the others, that is your final chance for redemption."
that's gotta be either his fear of dying - whether it's straight-out dying, by G'Kars' hands, or fear that his visions of his death would come true... OR losing self-control, by way of being implanted with a keeper. He did, at one point, say that he once had all the choices in the world, but no power - then when becoming emporer, had all the power in the world, but no choices.
What do you think? I'd make this a pull, but don't know how to do multis. Please feel free to heartily disagree with my interpretations!
How I was introduced to B5? It must have been the late 90s', I saw one of the most spoilerific moments of the series purely by chance (Sheridan telling the Shadows and the Vorlons to shove it). I knew that this was a Big Thing, and wanted to see more eps, but somehow didn't get around to it. Didn't even know the name of the show at this point! Earlier this millenium I saw "messages from earth" to "war without end 2", saw that it was quality viewing, but just didn't "get" what was going on, in hindsight, this was obvious, but it didn't really spoil me.
Fast-forward to last year. I'd heard some hype about the series, went over to the lurkers' guide, and found that a string of eps dealt with Garibaldis' drinking problem. "What??? This kinda stuff isn't dealt with in sci-fi!" Then imagine my shock that dead characters stayed dead! I watched every arc ep/ep in bold on the lurkers guide - I think I actually started with the start of S4, then went back to the obvious "WHAM" eps of s1 and 2, and was pretty hooked by season 3. The score for S1, IMHO, was pretty cheesy, but the rest, brilliant. The CGI that people seem to complain about - never really bothered me because the writing was consistent QUALITY. I remember reading that JMS had written virtually every ep of S2-4. Even heard somewhere that someone remarked that you could see the toll it took on him physically, comparing him from a S3 convention to a S4 one, since S4 was flat-out "WHAM" - the fact that one man wrote this epic virtually single-handed just goes to show that JMS is a genius. I don't even have anything negative to say about S5 (apart from it was less arc-based, but most loose ends were tied up previous, anyway)!
Didn't really care for the movies, apart, of course, the pilot and In The Beginning. The Lost Tales was a bit 50/50, I didn't like "over here", but "over there" was a lot better, if only to see Sheridan again.
Sorry to ramble on, I just thought this thread was as good a place as any other to share my B5 experience. Please do ask for my opinion on different episodes if you feel inclined.
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