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How do you rate "Avengers: Infinity War"?


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^ Maybe (though he did get tased quite a bit in Thor 1), but, while I'm a huge fan of The Dark World, Thor has never been a great character, whereas Tony is. As Ben Franklin would say, therefore, those who would mar a great character for a cheap laugh deserve neither. ;)
 
Saw the film again today and I still love it.

A few things I noticed this time around:

Is it just me or was there a certain scarecrow at Thanos' farm, seen at the bottom right hand side of the screen as he steps outside? Or am I just projecting because how the scene reminds me of the end of The Infinity Gauntlet?

After defeating Ebony Maw, Doctor Strange tells Tony that he'll protect the Time Stone before Tony or Peter and has no qualms about letting either of them die. I take this moment as proof that Stephen's relinquishment of the Stone as proof that the only path that will l lead to Thanos' ultimate defeat. That and his final words: "There was no other way."

The single most emotional moment of the whole film for me wasn't Wanda being forced to kill Vision, only to watch him him die again in vain (although it's a close second), rather it was Gamora asking Peter to swear on his mother's grave that he will kill her if Thanos captures her. The moment tells Peter how damn serious she was about the swearing and, in turn, she would know how serious he would take it. :wah:

The biggest missed opportunity from the comics:

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Maybe next year.

Mark
I thought about that comic the whole time I watched the film the first time.
 
So who and where was the Arrested Development character? I missed them.
 
One of the things that I liked about all the characters turning to ash, despite knowing they'll be back, was the emotional impact of it. Nearly all of them were ones that really devastating due to how it impacted the survivors because the development over the last decade.

The survivors barely had a reaction at all (a behind the camera problem); Stark just sat there after Spider-Man's "death" with the same expression he had after Thanos defeated him earlier. There should have been two very different emotional responses, but they were not. Cap's emotional meter was shockingly low compared to his Winter Soldier discovery that Bucky was alive & that masked killer / the "cause I'm with you to the end of the line" scene--and as you pointed out, after getting his childhood friend back--only to see him dissolve--should have inspired an unforgettable emotional scene, if only for a minute. To refer to Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan again, the second Kirk realized Spock's grave situation, every performance and the overall scene was a classic of tragedy and successfully played into all everyone knew of the Kirk/Spock brotherhood since the original series. That's how a film makes death powerful for characters and the audience. That was part of the job of A3--a film that was supposed to be the character-dricen cherry on top of ten years of films.


The movie itself was dark in a way that the DCEU films wish they could be.

That's funny, since a certain group of whiners go on and on about how dark and grim the DC films are. At least the darkness in the DC films have a point and is not here just to be there.[/spoiler]
 
That's funny, since a certain group of whiners go on and on about how dark and grim the DC films are. At least the darkness in the DC films have a point and is not here just to be there.[/spoiler]
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But seriously, they're shit and an absolute joke at this point. I want to like the DC movies, I really do. But they're trying way too dark to make them dark and serious even if that ruins the point of the characters. In many ways, The Dark Knight trilogy is the worst thing to happen to DC. Because now they think they have to copy that to be a success, especially in the face of Marvel films which generally have a lighter tone.
 
I can't imagine the natural reaction to seeing your friends and allies turn to dust before your eyes and in Tony's case seeing your young protege beg for his life and then apologize for dying in your arms as he turns to dust. Maybe they should have cried out for Martha.
Peter: Save... Aunt... May!
Tony: WHY DID YOU SAY THAT NAME?!
Peter: That's my Aunt's... name! It's my... Aunt's name. [evaporates]
Tony: (embarrassed) Oh.
 
^ Maybe (though he did get tased quite a bit in Thor 1), but, while I'm a huge fan of The Dark World, Thor has never been a great character, whereas Tony is. As Ben Franklin would say, therefore, those who would mar a great character for a cheap laugh deserve neither. ;)

Thor has always been a great character to me. The 2011 film made me a big fan of Chris Hemsworth. And I had seen him in the 2009 movie, "Star Trek". I used to like Tony . . . until "Age of Ultron". It's been downhill ever since. Although I found him very bearable in this film, miracle of miracles.


It's amazing how so many are expressing their opinions on both the DCEU and the MCU as if they are facts, instead of opinions - regardless of which franchise they prefer.
 
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