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How do you rate "Avengers: Infinity War"?


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So Hydra taking over in Winter Soldier was about preparing for (baseline, no gauntlet) Thanos?

Which is weird if they knew that Thanos was going to kill half the world when he got here.
If Hydra was working with Thanos, they probably didn’t know his ultimate agenda.
 
..or maybe they should have expressed realistic instead of flatlined reactions. Its as though the characters were like the actors--knowing the "deaths" are hollow, because the 'ol gang will be back in A4.
I felt an emotional reaction to seeing characters I like, some since childhood, die. I logically knew they would be back, but the performances and the tone of the film managed to sell it. So maybe this is just a personal issue for you and not a legitimate issue with the film itself. You know, YMMV.
 
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If Hydra was working with Thanos, they probably didn’t know his ultimate agenda.

If you're up to date with the TV show...

The coalition turned up 10 years ago (??) and told hydra: "If you get on your knees, we will save you from Thanos. Cool?"

How dumb is Hydra not to ask who it is that they are so afraid of to hand the home world over to flimflammen without some proof that there's more to fear than just a do-over of The Battle of New York?

Hydra was working with the coalition, not Thanos, but the coalition had to have explained who and what Thanos is.

Hydra had the mind stone for a while too.
 
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Are you talking about stuff from the newest Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. episodes? If so could you please spoiler code or at least post a spoiler warning next time, not all of us are up to date. I've been making a point of trying to avoid spoilers until I got a chance to get caught up later this week..... so yeah thanks for ruining that.
Idris Elba tweeted a farewell to Heimdell, which suggests he's done with the character. Sounds like that's one character who will be staying dead.
This brings up something I've been wondering about. Will the characters who died before The Snap stay dead?
 
..or maybe they should have expressed realistic instead of flatlined reactions. Its as though the characters were like the actors--knowing the "deaths" are hollow, because the 'ol gang will be back in A4.

No, just that shock happens just as often (if not more) than hamming it up.

Of course, you're just being a whiner over them announcing that there will be future films. So you're repaying their generosity with petulance, as usual.
 
This brings up something I've been wondering about. Will the characters who died before The Snap stay dead?
The general speculation (at least in this thread) is that all of the characters who died before the finger-snap will stay dead, with the possible exception of Gamora because she's probably in Soulworld.
 
The general speculation (at least in this thread) is that all of the characters who died before the finger-snap will stay dead, with the possible exception of Gamora because she's probably in Soulworld.
Speculation is just speculation. I would not be surprised to see any of the dead come back. Except Uncle Ben, of course. He's the only comics character who really gets to rest in peace.
 
IMHO, anyone who thinks Thanos' animation is subpar is probably impossible to please

I agree for, like, 99%. There were two or three interactions with characters (physical interactions) that didn't really work. Other than those, damn, that was good CGI.

On a different topic....
How fucking surprised were you when Red Skull showed up?? I mean, of all the things I didn't see coming, that was the biggest one!! I suspected the ending, although I didn't suspect it to be so shockingly done. I thought people would just suddenly be gone. Like 'poof'. But Red Skull? That was a shock to me.....Pity Hugo didn't reprise the role himself though.
 
First of all, was there any ending to the movie possible than the one we got? How could anyone have been surprised?
Yeah. I was surprised (not so much by the ending, which was solidified very early on, but by the lack of resolution immediately after). But that's mainly because I didn't catch it was initially called ‘Infinity War, Part 1’, so I didn't realise there was a sequel next year.
 
First of all, was there any ending to the movie possible than the one we got? How could anyone have been surprised?

A couple ways:

* they don't read comics; or

* they don't follow media news about the MCU so they didn't know about "Endgame" ( or whatever it ends up being called ).

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First of all, was there any ending to the movie possible than the one we got? How could anyone have been surprised?

Who knows. The "deaths"/finger snap oversaturated social media for months, so there was no surpise to this. There was no way for this to surprise anyone (or have a dramatic edge) when everyone knew about Black Panther, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Bucky and others have films/appearances coming.
 
Yeah. I didn't consider the characters' disintegrations to be hollow deaths. It was very somber. I was moved and saddened, and that lasted for quite a while after leaving the theater. YMMV.
I still feel bad about Spider-Man. Every time I think of it, I get sadder. I've recently become very concerned for Aunt May, worried that she's either dust too or just being worried about what happened to him.

Who knows. The "deaths"/finger snap oversaturated social media for months, so there was no surpise to this. There was no way for this to surprise anyone (or have a dramatic edge) when everyone knew about Black Panther, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Bucky and others have films/appearances coming.
How do you know Spider-Man will be Peter Parker? There's Miles Morales, who Feige has mentioned wanting to bring in at some point.
 
Who knows. The "deaths"/finger snap oversaturated social media for months, so there was no surpise to this. There was no way for this to surprise anyone (or have a dramatic edge) when everyone knew about Black Panther, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Bucky and others have films/appearances coming.

So yeah, instead of appreciating that they're nice enough to tell us about the future you just complain more. As usual.
 
..or maybe they should have expressed realistic instead of flatlined reactions. Its as though the characters were like the actors--knowing the "deaths" are hollow, because the 'ol gang will be back in A4.
1) Actual shock affects people differently. Tony Stark might have crumbled, but the reaction we saw was also possible.

2) As for Cap -- Give me a break. The man was a soldier in WWII and saw many friends and comrades die. He was still in 'battlefield mode', so no I don't have an issue with any 'lack of reaction' immediately from him because this is a war.
 
There was no way for this to surprise anyone (or have a dramatic edge) when everyone knew about Black Panther, Spider-Man, Dr. Strange, Bucky and others have films/appearances coming.

Depends on how you look at it. We know a bunch of actors have contracts ending and others have future movies. Therefore the unsurprising outcome would be to kill the existing actors and not the up-and-comers. The opposite happened in the movie, thus preserving the surprise in the moment. Afterward you can reflect on how this has to be reversed. But we don't know exactly how they are going to do that, keeping a surprise available for the next movie.
 
Just saw this over the weekend and loved ot. I'm a very casual watcher of these movies. I don't know anything about the movies or follow social media on this subject so the end was a bit of a shock to me. Of course i expect that many will return, just like in Trek in this universe dead doesn't mean dead.
 
I think Loki is still alive. His death at the hands of Thanos didn’t look all that different from his death at the hands of Kurse in TDW. “I assure you, brother, the sun will shine on us again” doesn’t sound to me like a line he gets right before a suicidal attack on Thanos, and he can’t be foolish enough to think that attack’s going to work, so he has to be up to something.

I’m not saying he’ll necessarily turn up alive in Avengers 4, but if there’s a Thor 4 and Hiddleston wants to return, he’ll be back.
 
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