Spoilers Avengers: Endgame grade and discussion thread

[KennyB]

Don't think I've seen this mentioned but apologies if so- remember those rumours about a role for Katherine Langford, star of 13 Reasons Why, in Endgame? Guessing they were just that as I and the rest of the internet it seems didn't spot her in the movie. Unless she ended up on the cutting room floor..

The rumor was one of those "someone inside the production says" and a few sites ran with it. Marvel never confirmed it. She's being coy on social media, so it was all BS and she's enjoying the free press or perhaps it was cut and she's still bound by an NDA.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

It seems only two divergent timelines were created: the one with 2014 Thanos traveling to the present day (or future) and the one created by Steve Rogers.

All six "leaks" had been plugged by Cap when he returned all stones to the right temporal coordinates, resulting in the present staying intact.

I believe we more or less have this:

(Not depicted to avoid Primer effect: Rogers' travel with the stones, Banner and Lang (except for when he returns the stones), the other Avengers travelling with the respective stones, Kelvin Gamora travelling back with Thanos)

Legend:
1944: Rogers falls to sleep.
1970: Stark and Rogers get the Space stone, Rogers returns it.
2011: Both versions of Rogers awaken
2012: Rogers, Lang and Stark retrieve the Mind and Time stone, and Thor's hammer; Rogers returns Mind and Time stone and Thor's hammer; Loki steals Space stone, which alters the timeline.
2013: Rocket and Thor retrieve Reality Stone dust, and Rogers returns Reality Stone no longer dust, which also alters the timeline (don't remember what happened with Jane Foster any longer)
2014: Guy Who Should Be Dead and Romanoff retrieve Soul Stone, Rogers returns it; Nebula and Rhodes retrieve Power Stone; Rogers returns it, Quill takes it again; Alt Thanos leaves that timeline to die in the other one.

 

[ITDUDE]

^Kelvin
I see what you did there.

 

[Ethros]

I was thinking as well how the "present" is now 2023, it been 5 years after the Snap in 2018.

But then if you think it's already 2019 obviously, I imagine the next few movies over the next few years- Dr Strange 2, Black Panther 2, Guardians 3, will all be set probably very soon after Endgame... Black Widow will most likely be a prequel... Capt Marvel 2 could between her movie and IW for all we know, or if it is a sequel then again not long after Endgame...
So by the time we get to Avengers 5 (if there is one) it will actually be 2022/23/24 in real life anyway

(...even though it's only 4 years away 2023 sounds so futuristic in my head )

 

[Awesome Possum]

I’m interested in seeing how the next Spider-Man handles the time jump and if any of the cast survived the snap. We know Ned at the very least is in the same boat as Peter, which was a sweet scene since the poor kid looked completely lost when he went back to school. I imagine MJ was snapped too and we’ll get a mix of old and new characters who go to school with him.

 

[EnderAKH]

I don’t. I’m happy for all the little girls who will grow up after seeing it and be inspired to create their own stories because they saw a hero who was like them. The kids growing up with these films are the future of film and comics and the future is going to be a lot bigger than 10 years of mostly male heroes. If a single shot of only female heroes bother you, you might want to just stop now because it won’t be the last or you can sit and enjoy it like the rest of us.

I was SO HAPPY when that scene happened and my wife turned to my daughter and said "Who rules the world?" And she threw her fist in the air and yelled "Girls!"

They are who that scene was for. And it was remarkably effective, and made me SO happy.

 

[indianatrekker26]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cn...avengers-endgame-box-office-record/index.html those early numbers are just mind blowing.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

i have no problem with female superheroes. just like i have no problem with diversity. But when you add the word "forced" in front of it, that's my problem. you don't think i'd mind if Thor can Captain Marvel were actually shows fighting together in a cool shot? no i wouldn't.
no but that shot went out of tis way to scream its message

 

[EnderAKH]

i have no problem with female superheroes. just like i have no problem with diversity. But when you add the word "forced" in front of it, that's my problem. you don't think i'd mind if Thor can Captain Marvel were actually shows fighting together in a cool shot? no i wouldn't.
no but that shot went out of tis way to scream its message

And what's wrong with screaming it's message? A message largely missing through 80 years of comics and 40 years of comics book movies? Scream it from the mountaintops so that my 8 years old daughter hears and knows!

 

[Awesome Possum]

i have no problem with female superheroes. just like i have no problem with diversity. But when you add the word "forced" in front of it, that's my problem. you don't think i'd mind if Thor can Captain Marvel were actually shows fighting together in a cool shot? no i wouldn't.
no but that shot went out of tis way to scream its message

Why is it forced with female characters but not male characters?

 

[crookeddy]

I'd love to see captain marvel fight alongside thor, but I don't know who they'd be fighting. Don't think anyone or anything could stop them.

 

[crookeddy]

Also being fat and out of shape didn't limit thor's fighting ability at all? So why stay in shape then...

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

they went out of their way to do that shot, it didnt seem naturally it stood out in a way that removes the viewer form the movie's events to show the message.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I'd love to see captain marvel fight alongside thor, but I don't know who they'd be fighting. Don't think anyone or anything could stop them.

uh maybe Thanos.. or Gromit. it don't matter

 

[crookeddy]

uh maybe Thanos.. or Gromit. it don't matter

They'd beat the crap out of thanos. He needed an infinity stone just to beat her alone.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

they went out of their way to do that shot, it didnt seem naturally it stood out in a way that removes the viewer form the movie's events to show the message.

(emphasis mine)

No more than when they did the Hero Panning Shots in The Avengers and Age of Ultron. This time it's all women. Why is that such a problem this time around?

 

[crookeddy]

(emphasis mine)

No less than when they did the Hero Panning Shots in The Avengers and Age of Ultron. This time it's all women. Why is that such a problem this time around?

I didn't even notice, so it couldn't have been all too gratuitous.

 

[EnderAKH]

they went out of their way to do that shot, it didnt seem naturally it stood out in a way that removes the viewer form the movie's events to show the message.

Didn't remove me or my family from the movie any more than any other group team up shot.

 

[Flying Spaghetti Monster]

I'm just saying it took me out of the film..combined with my utter dislike of CM and how she is portrayed.,. i'm happy to jump off the MCU train now.

 

[crookeddy]

I'm just saying it took me out of the film..combined with my utter dislike of CM and how she is portrayed.,. i'm happy to jump off the MCU train now.

Adios amigo