Nardpuncher
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I think the actual King Kong himself looked really good.
AVATAR Trailer is here!
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I think the actual King Kong himself looked really good.
review if the trailer from my friend's 13 year old daughter: "It's sci fi C G I!"
Nicely said.
King Kong looked fine, however everythnig else looked like crap.
man I kinda feel bad for Cameron right now. I bet he wasnt expecting these type of reactions.
If he knows anything about the Internet, he should have expected this, and worse.
I still say we need to give the poor actors some credit for being able to contribute to a story. The trailer gives us no indication of how much or little they may sell these "awful" looking critters to us as real beings whose story interests us.
Bonus points to Jackson if Wes Studi doesn't end up being the gruff leader of the Nav'i (and probably the love interests' disapproving daddy).
I'm pretty disgusted at this Cameron hating. He's one of the best directors out there and hasn't made bad movie yet. Why assume he'll start now?
trevanian
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Boy you SO nailed it with that! For over a decade now, they've just loved the idea of having 700 vfx shots, 1500 vfx shots, when 50 or 100 (or maybe 400) would tell the story. You don't need to cut to the outside of the spaceship for 6 cuts EVERY time somebody sneezes ... and you can spend SOME time looking at an actor react to a monster rather than showing the critter for 4min (look at THE ELEPHANT MAN ... Hopkins' expression in looking at the guy tells more story than the makeup on Hurt's face, at least at times.)
They are spending tons more and making a huge percentage of the film a visual effect when they don't need to, except for the rare exception, and for the sake of keeping up with the other big shows.
He made a movie that girls like, and they still haven't forgiven him.
"He's a sci/fi action filmmaker, he should've stayed that way, and he will be punished...with my derision!" - Former Fan
I could never fathom the idiots that raged and bitched over "Titanic" and cast out (to use a term) everything the man did just cause he made a "chick flick". You know you don't have to like "Titanic" from a story point of view-- I don't, but visually it's one of the best out there and Cameron pulled out all the stops with it.
and it looks like he just made another one(not that Im complaining though.)
I have a feeling, that like Titanic, this may end up appealing more to women than men.
I'm almost ashamed to say this, but the day Titanic opened I had an urge to go to the first showing, but I expected a big line at Grauman's Chinese, like there was for True Lies.
Got there at 8:30am for the 11:00 show, and the place was deserted, making me first in line.
(I think I redeemed myself later by showing up at Grauman's way early for the first showing of The Matrix, though!)
Anyway, my whole reason for wanting to see Titanic was to see how well they modeled the ship (can't stand DiCrapio!), and I have to say I truly felt as though I'd gone through the Time Tunnel, and was witnessing the event firsthand. (Especially that scene with the massive propellers rising up out of the water!)
I was sitting next to a group from some Titanic historical society, and several of the shots, like that aerial pass through the plume from the smokestack had us all going "Ooooooh!"
Got there at 8:30am for the 11:00 show, and the place was deserted, making me first in line.
(I think I redeemed myself later by showing up at Grauman's way early for the first showing of The Matrix, though!)
Anyway, my whole reason for wanting to see Titanic was to see how well they modeled the ship (can't stand DiCrapio!), and I have to say I truly felt as though I'd gone through the Time Tunnel, and was witnessing the event firsthand. (Especially that scene with the massive propellers rising up out of the water!)
I was sitting next to a group from some Titanic historical society, and several of the shots, like that aerial pass through the plume from the smokestack had us all going "Ooooooh!"
Titanic is not my type of movie, but it is perfectly done. the sets were beautiful.
I think the look of this movie is great, I don't care if it's the best thing ever that will change movies forever. The humans are dark and dirty and this other planet is a beautiful world. It's clearly a "humans are bad, aliens are good" story, but I don't care.
I think the look of this movie is great, I don't care if it's the best thing ever that will change movies forever. The humans are dark and dirty and this other planet is a beautiful world. It's clearly a "humans are bad, aliens are good" story, but I don't care.
You can criticize Titanic all you want but having won so many Oscars and the highest grossing movie of all time both domestically and foreign says something about both the director and the movie. Whereas I think the domestic tally will one day fall as The Dark Knight showed getting close, the global tally will be very hard to break.
I think Avatar will just be a movie you have to see and then form your own personal opinion.
It's not the type of movie where anybody should be listening to either the gushing or the bashing, unless it's a personal friend that has the same tastes as you but then you probably would go with them to that movie anyway.
I think Avatar will just be a movie you have to see and then form your own personal opinion.
It's not the type of movie where anybody should be listening to either the gushing or the bashing, unless it's a personal friend that has the same tastes as you but then you probably would go with them to that movie anyway.
The problem with the trailer is that (IMHO) the most visually impressive aspect of the movie (from what I saw of the 15 min. preview footage) is the 3d aspect, and that's impossible to show off in a 2d trailer. They should have had a 3d-specific trailer to show with other movies being shown in 3d (like Up), that doesn't involve quick cuts between scenes, but just sticks with a single scene for a minute or two (so that the viewer can truly absorb the 3d experience), just to show off the 3d aspect.
The trailer grows on me with every time I see it, and I will concede it is a trailer that has footage demanding to be seen on the big screen, but I'm still of two-minds over my whole anticipation for Avatar. I'm not that big a fan of James Cameron like a lot of people on this board and the whole concept doesn't exactly thrill me... I mean, it looks admittedly very interesting and it seems like it has the potential to be a very engaging film, but... I dunno. I'm still not "hooked" yet.
I'm not so sure I'd classify much of the criticism as "Cameron hating." It seems to me that much of the critique stems from a letdown (admittedly from a mere teaser trailer) from the hype. Nothing in the trailer seems to point toward a "revolution" of any kind and considering the fact that Cameron hyped his film as such, he opened himself up to that kind of critique.
Personally, I like Cameron's films -- even went to see Titanic opening day because I thought T2 was such a blast. But considering the lack of "wow" to the visuals (relative to the hype), it's only natural for some (like me) to voice their criticisms.
I hope the film succeeds. I hope the visuals turn out to be far better on the big screen and in 3D. I hope the story is compelling enough to warrant such extravagant visuals to begin with. But even though the trailer doesn't suck, it just doesn't inspire that kind of hope, either.
WFT, but I'll add that one thing that marked past films was his grittiness, the realism, dirt, smoke, grrime. that's missing here
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