Aussies - Why Is The Premier of NSW a Yank?
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Counting has been underway for only 40 minutes, and the ABC have called it already 
With 5% of the vote counted, credible pundits are calling a 17% plus swing against the government, a result that puts this election result in uncharted waters as far as defeats go.
With 5% of the vote counted, credible pundits are calling a 17% plus swing against the government, a result that puts this election result in uncharted waters as far as defeats go.
They shouldn't have shafted Nathan Reece (previous Premier). Kenneally has worked hard, but the team behind her are pretty crap. SHe needed to heave out all the dead wood like Roozendaal and that fuckface involved in the Iguana Joe's nightclub thing as well as being caught slipping the sausage to a younger woman. The bunch of... bastards known as the Right power machine need to be excised from the Party completely. They do nothing but harm.
And I say this as a long time Labor voter.
Because there's NO WAY I could bring myself to vote for the Liberal Party. I simply do not like or trust O'Farrell, there's something shifty about him, hard-nosed and hard-eyed. Nothing good will come from this Government. Yes, a change was needed, cleaning out the dead wood, but what happens next will not be fun.
I'm hoping Labor will be back next election, but I have my doubts.
And I say this as a long time Labor voter.
Because there's NO WAY I could bring myself to vote for the Liberal Party. I simply do not like or trust O'Farrell, there's something shifty about him, hard-nosed and hard-eyed. Nothing good will come from this Government. Yes, a change was needed, cleaning out the dead wood, but what happens next will not be fun.
I'm hoping Labor will be back next election, but I have my doubts.
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If this 17% swing holds, they're looking at 20 seats, and won't be back till 2019 at the earliest. Even for that to happen, O'Farrell would have to be spectacularly incompetent.
This is an absolutely extraordinary result. Seats like Wollongong and Newcastle, held by the ALP since the 1890's look set to fall.
Watching this, I'm seeing swings of 20 plus percent in seats that are just unimaginable as anything other than Labor.
This is just extraordinary, unprecedented stuff.
This is an absolutely extraordinary result. Seats like Wollongong and Newcastle, held by the ALP since the 1890's look set to fall.
Watching this, I'm seeing swings of 20 plus percent in seats that are just unimaginable as anything other than Labor.
This is just extraordinary, unprecedented stuff.
^ Agree about at least 2019. A lot for them depends on if they learnt any lessons from this. No more getting rid of a premier midterm.
With Newcastle and Wollongong, I think both seats will be retained by labor, but many surrounding seats have fallen, such as Charlestown. Here in Newcastle, John Tate has been rather disappointing with the numbers. Maybe he is past it.
There is also interactive map on the SMH site.
With Newcastle and Wollongong, I think both seats will be retained by labor, but many surrounding seats have fallen, such as Charlestown. Here in Newcastle, John Tate has been rather disappointing with the numbers. Maybe he is past it.
There is also interactive map on the SMH site.
And no more getting rid of a Prime Minister mid term!
Not a good message getting through to the public here..
OMG! That's.. an impressive amount of blue.
Keneally has conceded defeat, and resigned as leader.
That was never part of this script. She was put in there to lose this and then move on. As I said earlier, you have to wonder what she's been offered to agree to be the public face of such an unprecedented massacre.
Former leader Nathan Rees is sticking around (assuming he holds his seat - just the thought that he's in a preference battle in an area like Toongabbie is beyond belief), so he deserves some credit I suppose.
It's still quite breathtaking the savagery of this loss. Labor is clearly not the party of the worker in this state anymore. Coal mining towns that have been Labor for 110 years have suffered swings of over thirty percent, and may fall for the first time since the 19th century.
A couple of things caught my eye tonight, that may, or may not have wider ramifications :
- The failure of the Greens once again to translate solid polling into electoral success. Both inner city seats of Marrickville and Balmain were expected to be easy gains for them, but now it looks they may struggle to win either. Once again, when voters have the gun to their head on polling day, their support always drops. Our de-facto Prime Minister Bob Brown should take note.
- The incredible swings (we're talking 30 plus % in some cases) to the Nationals in the rural seats. Clearly country folk have ended their love affair with voting independent. I notice that the independent who held Rob Oakeshott's former state seat of Port Macquarie was absolutely thumped tonight. Oakeshott will be worried (assuming he has any plans to be re-elected).
An absolutely astonishing night for us political tragics. You could live to 150 and never see another result like this again.
Former leader Nathan Rees is sticking around (assuming he holds his seat - just the thought that he's in a preference battle in an area like Toongabbie is beyond belief), so he deserves some credit I suppose.
It's still quite breathtaking the savagery of this loss. Labor is clearly not the party of the worker in this state anymore. Coal mining towns that have been Labor for 110 years have suffered swings of over thirty percent, and may fall for the first time since the 19th century.
A couple of things caught my eye tonight, that may, or may not have wider ramifications :
- The failure of the Greens once again to translate solid polling into electoral success. Both inner city seats of Marrickville and Balmain were expected to be easy gains for them, but now it looks they may struggle to win either. Once again, when voters have the gun to their head on polling day, their support always drops. Our de-facto Prime Minister Bob Brown should take note.
- The incredible swings (we're talking 30 plus % in some cases) to the Nationals in the rural seats. Clearly country folk have ended their love affair with voting independent. I notice that the independent who held Rob Oakeshott's former state seat of Port Macquarie was absolutely thumped tonight. Oakeshott will be worried (assuming he has any plans to be re-elected).
An absolutely astonishing night for us political tragics. You could live to 150 and never see another result like this again.
I wouldn't stake my life on it.
As I said earlier - the same sort of wipe out happened to Labor in S.A and during the same period, the Liberals had 3 premiers - one got knifed, one was found to have mislead parliament (he also went into the 1999 election promising NOT to privatise the state's electrity assets - sqeaaks back then does a back privatisation via 99 year lease) and the third lost to labor.
For all the celebrating N.S.W Liberal PArty supporters will be doing this sort of outcome happens when you've been in power for many years. Just look at Queensland in 1989 Though the Nationals/Liberals didn't lose as many seats they suffered a 15% swing against the coalition and could have been much greater if it wasn't for Joh's Gerrymander.
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pwnt!
For those asking why KK was in Australia, from Wikipedia:
While I admire how hard she's worked in this election, she has made some majorly stupid decisions. Australians do not want their public assets sold off. The never have. So pushing for the electricity sales was a massive blunder, doubled when trying to do it while Parliament was pro-roged(sp?)
Federal Govt should take that as a pointer too. Rudd's popularity fell when he abandoned the carbon tax/emissions control issue.
Her working life has also involved student politics in the US, as well as Coordinator for a major charity.
While I admire how hard she's worked in this election, she has made some majorly stupid decisions. Australians do not want their public assets sold off. The never have. So pushing for the electricity sales was a massive blunder, doubled when trying to do it while Parliament was pro-roged(sp?)
Federal Govt should take that as a pointer too. Rudd's popularity fell when he abandoned the carbon tax/emissions control issue.
And further to that;
One, people hate it when public utilities are sold off. More than nine times out of ten, this will end up costing people even more.
Two, former Premier Morris Iemma on the ABC website today:
NO ONE in the public wants these things sold! Maybe there was disunity, but that was because the other half of the party, Iemma's half, were not listening! And THAT's what destroyed them, that arrogance.
Bunch of self righteous pricks. So angry about this.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/28/3175315.htm
One, people hate it when public utilities are sold off. More than nine times out of ten, this will end up costing people even more.
Two, former Premier Morris Iemma on the ABC website today:
Id Iemaa was here in front of me now, I'd say, "Oooohh, fuck off, you deluded cunt", a word I don't normally use.
NO ONE in the public wants these things sold! Maybe there was disunity, but that was because the other half of the party, Iemma's half, were not listening! And THAT's what destroyed them, that arrogance.
Bunch of self righteous pricks. So angry about this.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/03/28/3175315.htm
And another good article from the ABC about that issue:
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/45698.html
Say what you like about the ABC, it is good value for money. And deserves more.
http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/45698.html
Say what you like about the ABC, it is good value for money. And deserves more.
Add to that the irony that it was a Howard era policy of privatising electricity assets - people didn't want it becasue the only thing they've ever seen from power privatisation is prices go up (and if you ever what to read an absolute cluster fuck of a power assets privitisation look up Hydro One in Ontario).
I read about the claism from O'Farell about the supposed mess left by Labor (echoing Howard in 1996). Like Howard facts and figures will be distorted (as there is probably some truth) but it's going to be excuse not to deliver on the promises.
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