At the Prophet's Door - new DRGIII TNG novel?

[BrotherBenny]

According to Memory Alpha, Terok Nor was completed in 2351, which means that as of 2384 the station is 33 years old. I would have thought the Cardassians would build stuff to last.

It is however possible that the Ascendants destroy Terok Nor/DS9 and Starfleet replaces it with that ugly monstrosity. I like the way DS9 looks, suitably alien.

 

[Christopher]

Seems more likely that it's a station on the far side of the wormhole. It would give symmetry to the covers, one on each end.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Seems more likely that it's a station on the far side of the wormhole. It would give symmetry to the covers, one on each end.

Oh. Yes. I didn't think of that. That would make sense. I hadn't seen the two covers brought together in the same place and so wasn't thinking of them as a matched pair.

I guess decommissioning DS9 would be too "big" an event in any case; people would be up in arms.

So, Idran Station? Gamma Base One? Iliana Ghemor's Twenty Six Hour Interstellar Laundry Service?

 

[MatthiasRussell]

If it's on this side of the wormhole the Cardassians aren't our enemies anymore. If it's on the other side of the wormhole, it's possible the Dominion isn't our enemy anymore either, depending on how the cliffhanger from Olympus Descending turns out. Perhaps the Ea'voq have joined the Federation?

I think the Cardassians aren't the enemy anymore than Germany was nobody's enemy in the 1920s or China isn't presently the US's enemy. Though Cardassia and the UFP play nice at present, so we trust that to be the case for the foreseeable future?

 

[Deranged Nasat]

If it's on this side of the wormhole the Cardassians aren't our enemies anymore. If it's on the other side of the wormhole, it's possible the Dominion isn't our enemy anymore either, depending on how the cliffhanger from Olympus Descending turns out. Perhaps the Ea'voq have joined the Federation?

I think the Cardassians aren't the enemy anymore than Germany was nobody's enemy in the 1920s or China isn't presently the US's enemy. Though Cardassia and the UFP play nice at present, so we trust that to be the case for the foreseeable future?

Our friends in the (Dis)Union would be rather foolish to start up any sort of renewed hostility, though. They'd be biting the very hand that's holding them together. Most of their food and medicine seems to be coming in from the Federation. I suppose that if the UFP's wise, they'll work this into a permanent trading partnership as the Cardassians slowly get back on their feet, and ease Cardassia into a stable symbiosis. Show them that they can keep prospering this way, rather than falling back into old habits. Of course, there will undoubtedly be those Cardassians who simply can't adapt and will push for renewed war because it's all they know and all they cling to. But their popular support base can't be too high at the moment. Cardassians are oriented towards serving the community's needs; I think most Union citizens know that further hostilities will just cut off their supplies and bring even worse deprivation down on them. The Cardassian core worlds have never been self-sufficient, they're still in semi-ruins, they're a third-rate power (fourth rate? Fifth?); it would be suicidal to cut off a source of outside aid.

EDIT: Oh, and I just remembered. The Typhon Pact, if I recall correctly, took their Kobheerians away, so now they've lost a valuable supply and trade asset and also know that the Pact is potentially out to marginalize them. Where else would they turn if the UFP wasn't there? I'm guessing Cardassia will stay friendly to the UFP for the foreseeable future.

 

[Therin of Andor]

Perhaps Terok Nor has finally taken a dive into B'hava'el and this is the shiny new station that everyone will hate?

Not.Dead!

 

[Christopher]

If it's on this side of the wormhole the Cardassians aren't our enemies anymore.

The Cardassians haven't been the enemy since the end of the Dominion War, which was at least 8 years before this duology. As of The Struggle Within, the Cardassians are provisional signatories of the expanded Khitomer Accords, making them allies with the Federation, the Klingon Empire, and the Ferengi Alliance.

I guess decommissioning DS9 would be too "big" an event in any case; people would be up in arms.

There'd be a petition up within days...

So, Idran Station? Gamma Base One? Iliana Ghemor's Twenty Six Hour Interstellar Laundry Service?

Really Really Deep Space One.

 

[Deranged Nasat]

Perhaps Terok Nor has finally taken a dive into B'hava'el and this is the shiny new station that everyone will hate?

Not.Dead!

Yes, we'd never hear the end of it if they did "kill off" the station, would we? Deep Space Nine without Deep Space Nine...the mind boggles...

 

[Christopher]

Well, of course, the Federation could just reuse the "Deep Space 9" label for a replacement station in the same location. Although of course it wouldn't be the same to the fans.

 

[Turtletrekker]

DS9-A?

 

[TerraUnam]

[Monty Python]

Our ONE demand is that you bring back Janeway... And DS9! Oh drat!

[/Monty Python]

 

[Julio Angel Ortiz]

The more I see, the more excited I get for this duology. Now if we only had some details on that new Mack trilogy... ;-)

 

[JD]

I think the thing I'm most curious about with these books, is getting a better look at Captain Ro. I've been a huge fan of the character and I'm looking forward to getting a better look at her in command of the station.

 

[Sci]

If it's on this side of the wormhole the Cardassians aren't our enemies anymore. If it's on the other side of the wormhole, it's possible the Dominion isn't our enemy anymore either, depending on how the cliffhanger from Olympus Descending turns out. Perhaps the Ea'voq have joined the Federation?

I think the Cardassians aren't the enemy anymore than Germany was nobody's enemy in the 1920s

Germany wasn't anyone's enemy until the Nazis came to power.

or China isn't presently the US's enemy.

China isn't presently the U.S.'s enemy. It's our frenemy -- a rival for wealth and power whom we nonetheless need to maintain our wealth and power, and who nonetheless needs us for their wealth and power.

Though Cardassia and the UFP play nice at present, so we trust that to be the case for the foreseeable future?

The Cardassian Union's military is barely functional, their government is democratic, they approached and tried to negotiate a permanent peace treaty with Bajor, their population is still dependent on Federation aid for basic supplies like food, the Central Command and Obsidian Order are both dead and buried, and their society undergoing a fundamental transformation as it opens up to dissident groups like the Oralian Way.

Oh, and they've become one of the Federation's key allies in the Khitomer Alliance, alongside the Klingon Empire and Ferengi Alliance.

In other words -- 2380s Cardassia is not Weimar Germany after World War I.

2380s Cardassia is West Germany after World War II.

 

[j3067]

If it's on this side of the wormhole the Cardassians aren't our enemies anymore. If it's on the other side of the wormhole, it's possible the Dominion isn't our enemy anymore either, depending on how the cliffhanger from Olympus Descending turns out. Perhaps the Ea'voq have joined the Federation?

I think the Cardassians aren't the enemy anymore than Germany was nobody's enemy in the 1920s

Germany wasn't anyone's enemy until the Nazis came to power.

Aside from that whole thing starting around 1914 and sneaking Lenin back into Russia and getting the IRA launched. Danke.

 

[Sci]

I think the Cardassians aren't the enemy anymore than Germany was nobody's enemy in the 1920s

Germany wasn't anyone's enemy until the Nazis came to power.

Aside from that whole thing starting around 1914 and sneaking Lenin back into Russia and getting the IRA launched. Danke.

The context should make it incredibly obvious that I'm talking about the inter-war period, the Weimar Republic era, between World War I and World War II, when Germany was a liberal democracy. Note MatthiasRussell's reference to the 1920s.

 

[captcalhoun]

i don't why people are calling it a shipyard. looks like a starbase under construction to me, not a shipyard.

 

[JD]

I was thinking the same thing. I thought maybe somebody saw something about it being a shipyard on another site or something.

 

[Julio Angel Ortiz]

i don't why people are calling it a shipyard. looks like a starbase under construction to me, not a shipyard.

Bingo. Which would be a pretty awesome development (and a natural progression of the DS9 storyline).

One thing that always kind of bugged me about DS9, as much as I love it and it's my favorite Trek series, is that while the Gamma Quadrant was only a wormhole away, they don't really wind up exploring it all that much (obviously due, in part, with the Dominion War). Which was one of the reasons I loved the Mission Gamma tetralogy.

 

[Christopher]

I always wished that after DS9 premiered, the Enterprise-D would be sent on a long-term exploration mission in the Gamma Quadrant, and TNG could thereby get back to its original intention of being about a ship exploring the unknown, rather than just spending most of its time on diplomatic and political and rescue missions to known planets. It would've allowed for periodic crossovers whenever the E-D had to check back in at DS9 for repair, resupply, etc.