Assasin's Creed Rogue/Unity

[Turd Ferguson]

I don't understand why the last few games have basically abandoned the central storyline. Is it because they have to make SO MANY games now they have to keep stringing the story along without resolving anything?

If I remember correctly, didn't the whole Juno and the First Civilization storyline deal with trying to prevent the solar flare from wiping out Earth in 2012? Desmond did his part to ensure Earth's survival. I just figured since he prevented Earth from being fried the Juno part was over with.

 

[RoJoHen]

I don't understand why the last few games have basically abandoned the central storyline. Is it because they have to make SO MANY games now they have to keep stringing the story along without resolving anything?

If I remember correctly, didn't the whole Juno and the First Civilization storyline deal with trying to prevent the solar flare from wiping out Earth in 2012? Desmond did his part to ensure Earth's survival. I just figured since he prevented Earth from being fried the Juno part was over with.

Except Juno escaped and is now running amok all over the internet or something.

 

[SPCTRE]

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If you wanna open this gold chest, connect uPlay! If you wanna open this blue chest, download the companion app! How about...no?

 

[ATimson]

I don't understand why the last few games have basically abandoned the central storyline. Is it because they have to make SO MANY games now they have to keep stringing the story along without resolving anything?

Pretty much, yeah. They told the story that they meant to tell in the initial "trilogy"; now they're just making more games that continue the story but without actually doing anything to change the status quo.

It feels like the new games are tie-ins to the originals, rather than sequels - everything has to go back in the box when they're done with it. And everything has to stand alone.

Halo is in the same boat. They had a trilogy that told a complete story, and then now have a new open-ended story arc for future games. (The "Reclaimer Trilogy" was recently changed to be open-ended because (paraphrasing) "we didn't want to limit the story to just a trilogy".) Don't expect to see plot progress any time soon there, either.

 

[Mr Light]

That's a shame because the reason I loved AC so much was because I was so completely into the story and the mystery of the Ancients. It was like the latest installment of an incredibly engrossing storyline; a new Harry Potter, a new episode of LOST, a new Marvel movie, a new Saw movie

One of my favorite moments in video game history is when I finally finished the ancient memory flashback in ACII and all the bizarre imagery resolved itself into two infamous words: "Adam!" "EVE!" Mind. Blown.

 

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[Rincewiend]

[yt]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G5sXtrLtT7g[/yt]

 

[RoJoHen]

I encountered every single one of those glitches at some time or another.

 

[FPAlpha]

I'm wondering if and when all these glitches will be patched out.

Only then will i consider buying this game as there's a ton of other games to play.

 

[Nightowl1701]

I don't understand why the last few games have basically abandoned the central storyline. Is it because they have to make SO MANY games now they have to keep stringing the story along without resolving anything?

If I remember correctly, didn't the whole Juno and the First Civilization storyline deal with trying to prevent the solar flare from wiping out Earth in 2012? Desmond did his part to ensure Earth's survival. I just figured since he prevented Earth from being fried the Juno part was over with.

Having looked over the extras from Rogue, I don't think they're done with Juno. They've just pushed her into the background for the time being while they move the pieces into place for AC V.
Abstergo acknowledges that they're well aware she's out there hiding in their computers, and for the time being they're doing each other's dirty work (via the Sages/Instruments of the First Will cult) to recover Pieces of Eden as an alliance of convenience.
What Juno seems to be waiting for, and presumably what the inevitable Assassin's Creed V (Rising Phoenix?) will deal with, is the breakthrough called "The Singularity - a fusion of humanity and machines" that would allow her to finally possess a physical form without losing her cyber/superhuman abilities. At that point, she's unstoppable - unless the Assassins and Templars abandon their endless war and join forces.

And one rumored piece of Eden that Abstergo/Juno are considering an Assassin red herring, the Ankh of Isis, "apparently raises the dead." That plus the Rising Phoenix title, and we just might - might - not have seen the last of Desmond Miles either...

 

[Mr Light]

I got Rogue on Black Thursday for $35! Hard to say no at that price.

 

[ATimson]

Having looked over the extras from Rogue, I don't think they're done with Juno. They've just pushed her into the background for the time being while they move the pieces into place for AC V.

At this point the numbering is totally screwed up. Character-wise, Unity and Rogue should have been V and VI. Plot-wise, Unity should have been IV, and Black Flag/Rogue the unnumbered sequels to III like Brotherhood and Revelations.

I'm betting they drop the numbering, to try to maintain the appearance of newcomer friendliness. Which will be easy if they keep pushing the main plot to the side like everything has after III.

I got Rogue on Black Thursday for $35! Hard to say no at that price.

Even harder to say no at $25.

 

[ATimson]

Can someone tell me what I missed?

Spoiler: Unity, Sequence 7, Memory 1

Somehow, everybody knows that the silversmith guy, François-Thomas Germain, is a Sage. Bishop mentions it, and it's in the updated database entry. Is it just an assumption because the guy isn't dead like he was supposed to be? Or was there some other evidence that I'm missing?

 

[Lonemagpie]

AC V has been announced - called Victory, and set in Victorian London!

http://kotaku.com/next-years-big-assassins-creed-is-set-in-victorian-lond-1665343788

 

[RoJoHen]

Meh.

 

[Nightowl1701]

Can someone tell me what I missed?

Spoiler: Unity, Sequence 7, Memory 1

Somehow, everybody knows that the silversmith guy, François-Thomas Germain, is a Sage. Bishop mentions it, and it's in the updated database entry. Is it just an assumption because the guy isn't dead like he was supposed to be? Or was there some other evidence that I'm missing?

Spoiler: Here's what you missed

I'm gonna go with "Because each of these Sages wear the EXACT SAME FACE - the face of Juno's husband Aita." If the face isn't a good enough indicator, having one eye a different color from the other and with a different size pupil (as with Black Bart/John in Black Flag) is. Even if Arno himself has no clue what a Sage is, 'Deacon' Shawn certainly would.

 

[ATimson]

Spoiler: Here's what you missed

I'm gonna go with "Because each of these Sages wear the EXACT SAME FACE - the face of Juno's husband Aita." If the face isn't a good enough indicator, having one eye a different color from the other and with a different size pupil (as with Black Bart/John in Black Flag) is. Even if Arno himself has no clue what a Sage is, 'Deacon' Shawn certainly would.

Spoiler: What I missed

You're right: I totally missed the appearances matching. I saw it with Bart/John, but I didn't notice that de Molay and Germain were matches too.

Thanks!

 

[JarodRussell]

I've started playing Unity right after I finished Black Flag, and holy shit, I love it. Maybe they patched most of the problems, I don't know. The new combat system is nifty. The character animations are so much more smoother. The climbing works much better than in any of the previous ones. The cutscenes are excellently done. The graphics are crazy. And the attention to detail is mind boggling. I've spent all day just wandering around, visiting every house with an open door or window. The soundtrack as well as the sound effects are really nice as well. The direction is really good, I actually care for the main character again, as I did for Ezio in AC2. And the gameplay elements are actually introduced as part of the story again, which I really dig. From AC Brotherhood to AC Black Flag, I always got the feeling that you really had to know the previous games to be able to play the new ones. It truly feels completely revamped.

Only complaint is the voice acting. English and American accents for French people?

 

[FPAlpha]

So you say there are few if any major glitches now?

Can anyone confirm who has played thsi from day one and compare game performance then and now?

This game was on my A list since i saw gameplay footage but fortunately i have avoided being an early adopter when few days later people reported massive glitches in the game and it only spun further.

I think they are up to the fourth major patch so i hope it's playable because i really like the AC games.

On the speech issue:

Well.. they could have made the original sound all in French and subtitle it in english for added immersiveness (is that even a word? ) but once people found that out i'm sure some would not buy it because they feel it's distracting. Would have been a cool feature (if only it was choosable maybe).

 

[ATimson]

So you say there are few if any major glitches now?

Can anyone confirm who has played thsi from day one and compare game performance then and now?

On PS4, I was playing from day one, but never ran into any major glitches or performance issues outside of whatever was wrong with the menus that was causing the console's fans to rev. (There may have been 1 or 2 cases of the game crashing as well, but that's hardly unique to Unity.)

I've only briefly played with the newest patch; they solved that menu issue. I haven't really noticed any other differences in the game.

My understanding is that PC saw the brunt of the improvements from patching. (Perhaps now people are understanding why the PC versions of AC games usually ship late? )

Digital Foundry did an assessment of the performance improvements. They get better numbers with the newer patches, but I certainly didn't notice anything different in the feel.

Well.. they could have made the original sound all in French and subtitle it in english for added immersiveness (is that even a word? ) but once people found that out i'm sure some would not buy it because they feel it's distracting. Would have been a cool feature (if only it was choosable maybe).

It is choosable. It would also affect the "present day" portions of the game, but they're so minimal compared to earlier AC games that it won't really affect immersion.