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Article on Trek vs Wolverine Box Office

Ironically I'm more interested in seeing the Wolverine movie myself.

It wasn't that good. Wasn't as good as X-Men United.

Interestingly, someone forget to mention this from the article:

(It's worth noting that the expected $50 million opening haul for "Star Trek" would be a lift from the total box office of the last film in the franchise, "Star Trek: Nemesis," which grossed only $43.1 million in 2002-2003.)

RAMA
 
It is tolerable entertainment if you've been beat about the head and shoulders for about twenty minutes with the business end of a loaded shotgun, then watch it while downing shots of 101.

They Live! was never supposed to be taken that seriously to begin with. Ironically, that description you gave there is about how I feel about STXI. :D
 
Ironically I'm more interested in seeing the Wolverine movie myself.

It wasn't that good. Wasn't as good as X-Men United.

Interestingly, someone forget to mention this from the article:

(It's worth noting that the expected $50 million opening haul for "Star Trek" would be a lift from the total box office of the last film in the franchise, "Star Trek: Nemesis," which grossed only $43.1 million in 2002-2003.)
RAMA

And cost half as much to produce or less.
 
I was just wondering, what if star trek gets beat by wolverine on star trek opening weekend? That would be bad. Think that be possible?
 
I was just wondering, what if star trek gets beat by wolverine on star trek opening weekend? That would be bad. Think that be possible?

Possible - anything is possible - but very unlikely. Using recent history as reference and assuming that Marketcast is on the money - 100 million opening for Wolvy and 50 million for Trek - we can look back at "Iron Man." IM had an opening weekend of just over 100 million in May 2008 and fell off 50 percent for a second weekend take of 51 million. It managed that second weekend partly because the "big opener" that weekend crashed and burned ("Speed Racer" with 18.5 million).

So, for Wolverine to dominate for two weekends would probably mean that all predictions about its take are either accurate or underestimates and all predictions from same sources about Trek's take are overestimates. Again, possible but very unlikely.
 
I expect Wolverine's drop off rate to be closer to X3 than to X2, somewhere around 67% since it's such a "meh" movie. This means Trek would have to open well under 50 million for Wolverine to have a chance to maintain the top spot. The other thing people forget; is that the first Pirates movie opened under 50 million and still made 300 million in the end. It boils down to whether the movie is actually good and audiences connect with it. Yes, opening weekend is important, but if Trek is actually a good movie I wouldn't worry too much.
 
I was just wondering, what if star trek gets beat by wolverine on star trek opening weekend? That would be bad. Think that be possible?

Its possible but I dont see it happening. If it did happen though that would be pretty bad if Trek XI could not open #1 after all the ads. I dont think its likely though.
 
I could care less about how Trek does in comparison to Wolverine. Plenty of people have awful taste in movies, I just have to accept it and move on. Wolverine might make more money, I don't care.

I only care that this movie is successful enough to warrant a sequel, and hopefully another, and so forth, until we finally get a new TV show. That's all I really want... a new show. A movie is 2 hours. A show is 50-150 hours. I like Star Trek, and I want more Star Trek. So for my sake, go see Trek XI 10 times, please, everyone, thank you.

:p
 
Ironically I'm more interested in seeing the Wolverine movie myself.

It wasn't that good. Wasn't as good as X-Men United.

Interestingly, someone forget to mention this from the article:

(It's worth noting that the expected $50 million opening haul for "Star Trek" would be a lift from the total box office of the last film in the franchise, "Star Trek: Nemesis," which grossed only $43.1 million in 2002-2003.)
RAMA

And cost half as much to produce or less.

OK well let's see; ST cost $120 million, plus $30-40 million in marketing. If it tracks on prediciton, it will make $50 million in its opening, and $150 million, US. If it makes its historical 36% overseas, that's $204 million. Even if its not ideal, that's $140 million more than Nemesis.

RAMA
 
X-men films always open big. X-2 opened to 85 million and finished with 214 million

X-3 opened to over 100 million and finished with 234 million.

The X-men films always open big but they have terrible legs. Which will be true with Wolverine, which is according to many who have seen it on Par with the horrible X-3.

Star Trek will beat Wolverine in the end.
I agree. I think Star Trek will still be somwhat relevant in July while interest in Wolverine will drop off sometime in early June. By early August some interest in seeing Star Trek may remain while Wolverine may be forgotten.

I have a feeling that Star Trek will be like last year's Iron Man or 2007's Transformers and perhaps remain viable in theaters for a couple of months -- possibly a few weeks longer than Wolverine.

... If it makes its historical 36% overseas...
I think one of Abrams' missions for this film was to make the Star Trek film franchise more viable internationally (hence the inclusion of popular UK and Aussie/NZ stars). Simon Pegg's inclusion alone has increased the "Young U.K. male" interest in the film tremendously -- and even interest among older UK men and women.

I think this film will do better than the historical Star Trek 36% overseas. Abrams/Paramount are probably hoping for closer to 50% (some typical summer blockbusters actually make 60% of their ticket sales outside the U.S.)
 
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It wasn't that good. Wasn't as good as X-Men United.

Interestingly, someone forget to mention this from the article:

RAMA

And cost half as much to produce or less.

OK well let's see; ST cost $120 million, plus $30-40 million in marketing. If it tracks on prediciton, it will make $50 million in its opening, and $150 million, US. If it makes its historical 36% overseas, that's $204 million. Even if its not ideal, that's $140 million more than Nemesis.

RAMA

ST Cost $150 to make and had an ad budget of $50-60 million.
 
I only care that this movie is successful enough to warrant a sequel, and hopefully another, and so forth, until we finally get a new TV show. That's all I really want... a new show. A movie is 2 hours. A show is 50-150 hours. I like Star Trek, and I want more Star Trek. So for my sake, go see Trek XI 10 times, please, everyone, thank you.

If you prove Star Trek can be succesful as a big blockbuster franchise, you don't then need to bother with a TV series.
 
I only care that this movie is successful enough to warrant a sequel, and hopefully another, and so forth, until we finally get a new TV show. That's all I really want... a new show. A movie is 2 hours. A show is 50-150 hours. I like Star Trek, and I want more Star Trek. So for my sake, go see Trek XI 10 times, please, everyone, thank you.

If you prove Star Trek can be succesful as a big blockbuster franchise, you don't then need to bother with a TV series.

Absolutely Right(TM).
 
I only care that this movie is successful enough to warrant a sequel, and hopefully another, and so forth, until we finally get a new TV show. That's all I really want... a new show. A movie is 2 hours. A show is 50-150 hours. I like Star Trek, and I want more Star Trek. So for my sake, go see Trek XI 10 times, please, everyone, thank you.

If you prove Star Trek can be succesful as a big blockbuster franchise, you don't then need to bother with a TV series.

Absolutely Right(TM).

Yes, but if it tanks horribly, what would that bode for a t.v. series.

Atlantis spinoffs seem to be the only answer in terms of space opera.
 
i went to my local theatre today and purchased tickets for the 7 pm showing on may 7th.the girl at the box office told me to come about an hour early because they were having an exceptionally high amount of tickets being sold.i asked if there was as much interest in wolverine and she replied that there seemed to be very little movement in sales for that movie.that might bode well for trek. at least in my area .
 
And cost half as much to produce or less.

OK well let's see; ST cost $120 million, plus $30-40 million in marketing. If it tracks on prediciton, it will make $50 million in its opening, and $150 million, US. If it makes its historical 36% overseas, that's $204 million. Even if its not ideal, that's $140 million more than Nemesis.

RAMA

ST Cost $150 to make and had an ad budget of $50-60 million.

As usual, these numbers are hard to pin down, I still see the total budget listed at $150 million.
 
ST Cost $150 to make and had an ad budget of $50-60 million.

As usual, these numbers are hard to pin down, I still see the total budget listed at $150 million.

That's not hard to pin down - marketing, advertising, distribution costs and so forth are never considered part of a movie's budget and estimates of budgets are never based on their inclusion.
 
I've seen them all at the box office including Nem...Neme...s... whatever. Hell, I saw Star Trek V twice opening weekend. :shifty:

I read the Countdown comics. I won't bother going to a theater for Trek 11.
 
I checked some older tracking numbers, as pointed out earlier they where getting Fast and Furious wrong before it debuted. On the 20th March the tracking companies said that it would make low 40s (millions) and yet it opened to 70!

Next lot of tracking numbers come out on Sunday/Monday so we will have to see if the trend is up or down.


This was going to be my point....the tracking numbers are not always right. Although competition sometimes does affect box office numbers. I hate to say it, but take a look at last year's sci-fi series movie against a comic book character....X-Files vs Batman. If I remember correctly X Files was tracking to pull in 30 million or so on its first weekend, and didn't even do half that. Then Batman came along and X-Files was all done at the Box Office.

Its kind of the reverse this year, with the comic character having his movie released first. I don't doubt X-men is going to open big, why shouldn't it? Box office numbers this year have been through the roof, so I bet X-men does open to that 90-100 million dollar amount. I don't believe this is bad news for Star Trek. Yes movies and studios compete against each other, but the Star Trek should do fine.

Because of the economy people are going to the movies right now to be entertained rather than going and doing more expensive things. Trek will probably open in the 60 million dollar range...which is not bad. The first target of the film needs to be its own budget domestically. Legs will be important. Just look at what the did for Taken.
 
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