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Spoilers Arrow - Season 5

It was cute to see Felicity struggling to come up with the same kind of lame excuses with her Anti-Crime Unit boyfriend that Oliver used to offer when requesting her help back in season 1. But why doesn't she have the requisite lab equipment back at the Arrowcave? (The training facility seemed to be an abandoned HIVE HQ.)
She made a quick comment about the equipment being destroyed.
I liked this one.
I can see after everything he's been through why Oliver was a bit harsher with them, and it was nice to Felicity talk some sense into him. I really like what they are doing with the Olicity relationship this season, it's nice to see them still friendly and working together even after breaking up.
I liked what we got with the new team. It'll be interesting to see what kind of dynamics build up between them. I'm very curious to see what the Artemis and Mr. Terrific costumes end up looking like.
Like @Christopher, I was surprised to see Ragman actually has powers after they talked about how they were moving away from that kind of stuff. I guess they must have just meant that it won't be a focus of the season. He seemed pretty cool, but I did have a trouble understanding him when he was in full Ragman mode. I watched it online and I had to rewatch some of the last fight scene with the closed captions on to actually figure out what he was saying.
Is Felicity's new boyfriend a preexisting character? I thought I heard somewhere that they were bring in one of the other comic vigilantes like Vigilante or Manhunter and he seemed like a good candidate for that kind of character.
 
Delighted to see Ragman on the show and hopefully as a semi-regular. I *LIKE* magic and meta-humans being in the show. :-)

Also, finally we get a reference that Felicity nuked an American city and killed thousands of innocents ;-)
 
If Ragman is the "fan favorite" character they were alluding to, I will be disappointed. Oh well, still early in the season. Plenty of time to add other characters.

Also, Prometheus? Really? Arrow continues to pirate IPs from other DC properties.

Episode was nothing special, but it wasn't horrible.
GA doesn't exactly have a deep bench. So its just about the only way to go.
 
Delighted to see Ragman on the show and hopefully as a semi-regular. I *LIKE* magic and meta-humans being in the show. :-)

Also, finally we get a reference that Felicity nuked an American city and killed thousands of innocents ;-)
Und the camera lingered on her when they referenced it and her expression showed guilt.
Everyone thinks that Damien Darkh aimed the nuke at that city.
Brining the lone survivor into the team pretty much guarantees a confrontation at some point.
How do you admit to someone that your family, your friends and everyone you know and 10,000 more people around you died because you arbitrarily chose that city to die so yours can live?
 
How do you admit to someone that your family, your friends and everyone you know and 10,000 more people around you died because you arbitrarily chose that city to die so yours can live?

Well, it wasn't "arbitrary," and it wasn't to save her own city. The missile was heading for Monument Point, and of course she wanted to stop the missile completely like she did with all the others, but she failed, and the only alternate course she could send it on was toward the smaller community of Havenrock. An arbitrary choice is one selected over other options for no reason, one made casually with no thought behind it. But here, the only option Felicity had for saving a city of millions required dooming a town of tens of thousands. She literally had no other choice. (And the fact that she did manage to save the other 7-odd billion people on Earth should surely count for something.)
 
I know its not exactly the same at all, and its just a "vibe" thing (no, not Cisco), but it feels like Oliver just built a team of "Outsiders" of sorts.
 
Where does Oliver get all his funding for all this gear and stuff? Is there still money left in the Queen bank?
 
My guess is Thea is paying for it out of the inheritance she received when Malcolm Merlyn "died".

...which still bugs me, by the way. She purposely screwed with the Queen family's ability to save some of its millions from the forcible collapse of their company and now she's the only one with money because she accepted funds from a guy (Merlyn) she supposedly can't stand.
 
Well, it wasn't "arbitrary," and it wasn't to save her own city. The missile was heading for Monument Point, and of course she wanted to stop the missile completely like she did with all the others, but she failed, and the only alternate course she could send it on was toward the smaller community of Havenrock. An arbitrary choice is one selected over other options for no reason, one made casually with no thought behind it. But here, the only option Felicity had for saving a city of millions required dooming a town of tens of thousands. She literally had no other choice. (And the fact that she did manage to save the other 7-odd billion people on Earth should surely count for something.)

+1

Felicity made the right call and I would of done the same in a heartbeat. If you can't stop something then reduce the damage.
 
So they really did it. They acknowledged the "Flashpoint" change of Diggle & Lyla's kid in the opening recap and then just went on with the altered continuity with nobody in the story noticing. That's going to play very oddly for viewers in years to come, watching just this series and not the whole thing. Especially since Netflix often leaves off the opening recaps.

Still, I think they may have done something clever with it. I was wondering if Floyd Lawton being alive again was another Flashpoint change, so it was a surprise when it turned out that Diggle was hallucinating him. (Which, really, I should've suspected sooner, given the enormous coincidence of them ending up in a cell together.) I wonder if that hallucination indicates something seriously wrong with Diggle, as opposed to being just a dramatic device to illustrate his inner conflict.

I didn't really buy the thing about the guy being made superhuman by not feeling pain. Pain alerts us to injury and damage, or the risk thereof. People who can't feel pain are prone to constantly hurting themselves by accident and can barely function. And people were shooting this guy in the back. He should've still collapsed from blood loss even if he didn't feel the bullets. And yet Oliver defeated him at the end by exploiting that very fact -- that lack of pain is not invulnerability -- even though the rest of the episode ignored that. Not very consistent.

Nice to see the new team in action and in costume. The Wild Dog and Mr. Terrific costumes are surprisingly authentic, though Artemis's outfit is a little bland.
 
I haven't commented on any of this season's episodes yet, but I'm really enjoying what we've been given so far... especially this week's episode. Cody Runnels and Stephen Amell have great acting chemistry, as evidenced by their pro wrestling feud from last summer, and, as a huge fan of that genre of entertainment, seeing the two of them fight each other on Arrow was just plain awesome. I also thought it was neat that they made Curtis a wrestling fan and used that detail as a way of justifying and explaining the jacket he wears.

I also have to say that I'm enjoying the flashbacks for really the first time since Season 2, since they seem to have more purpose than they have the past couple of seasons. I'm also really enjoying this new "Team Arrow", especially Curtis and Rory/Ragman, who is my new favorite addition to the Earth-1 Arrowverse.

I also really liked Felicity's subplot this week with her feeling guilty over having essentially doomed Rory and everybody else in his hometown by diverting Darkh's nuclear missile off course, and the way she agonized over the whole thing and then decided to come clean to Rory was really well written and acted.

The only issues I had with this episode were the Thea and Diggle subplots, as they seemed fairly superfluous, although it was nice to see Lyla again and we did get some nice acting from Willa Holland, particularly in the scene where she called out that reporter for her underhandedness and showed some of her old 'fire'.

This was the best episode of Arrow's season so far, even though I really enjoyed both last week's episode and the premiere, and the decision to go "back to basics" while also not discarding the evolutions that the show has undergone in its last four seasons has given it some added life and honestly made it better than it already was.
 
I haven't commented on any of this season's episodes yet, but I'm really enjoying what we've been given so far... especially this week's episode. Cody Runnels and Stephen Amell have great acting chemistry, as evidenced by their pro wrestling feud from last summer, and, as a huge fan of that genre of entertainment, seeing the two of them fight each other on Arrow was just plain awesome.

I wouldn't exactly call Runnels's performance "acting." His delivery was pretty weird. I guess it's the kind of cadence that's better suited to a wrestling ring than a soundstage.


I also thought it was neat that they made Curtis a wrestling fan and used that detail as a way of justifying and explaining the jacket he wears.

And the wrestler he mentioned was Terry Sloane, the name of the original Mr. Terrific from Golden Age comics. Curtis is based on the second Mr. Terrific, Michael Holt.


I also have to say that I'm enjoying the flashbacks for really the first time since Season 2, since they seem to have more purpose than they have the past couple of seasons. I'm also really enjoying this new "Team Arrow", especially Curtis and Rory/Ragman, who is my new favorite addition to the Earth-1 Arrowverse.

A bit weird that there are two characters named Rory now, Mick Rory (Heatwave) and Rory Regan (Ragman). I would've thought that was a pretty uncommon name.
 
I wouldn't exactly call Runnels's performance "acting." His delivery was pretty weird. I guess it's the kind of cadence that's better suited to a wrestling ring than a soundstage.

Hmm. I happened to like the way he played the character of Sampson, so to each their own.

Also, professional wrestling is most definitely a form of acting, which is why you've had wrestlers/former wrestlers like Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Adam "Edge" Copeland, Jay "Christian" Reso, Paul "Big Show" Wight, Andre the Giant, Terry "Hulk Hogan" Bolea, and John Cena, amongst others, make the leap from the ring to careers in Hollywood.
 
Also, professional wrestling is most definitely a form of acting, which is why you've had wrestlers/former wrestlers like Dwayne "The Rock" Johnson, Adam "Edge" Copeland, Jay "Christian" Reso, Paul "Big Show" Wight, Andre the Giant, Terry "Hulk Hogan" Bolea, and John Cena, amongst others, make the leap from the ring to careers in Hollywood.

I was speaking about this specific performer, not the general category he belongs to. Of course there are wrestlers who are good actors, but there are also wrestlers who are bad actors. Obviously each individual must be judged as an individual. This person delivered his lines in a way that might have been well-suited for making boasts to an audience in a wrestling ring, but that doesn't automatically translate well to other contexts. Good acting means being able to adapt your delivery to the needs of the scene and the character. Dwayne Johnson and others have shown that they can do that. I don't think this person did do that.

Granted, some wrestlers build acting careers on their ring personas and speaking styles, like Mr. T or Sergeant Slaughter. That can work for some people. I guess maybe fans of this guy might like seeing the delivery they recognize, but to me, he was just a guy giving a weird and clunky performance.
 
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