Spoilers Arrow - Season 5
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fake-Chase woul almost have to have assumed the identity...I mean, how did he get so high in rank as the DA without it a "real" Chase having gone through law school and such. 4 years is too short a time to have just decided it. (Unless Chase was really a "good' guy until his father's death)?
I guess we shall see....
If only we could ask alternate reality Damien Dahrk... he had Vigilante's mask in his trophy case.
Nope. Guggenheim's exact words were:
http://www.cbr.com/arrow-vigilante-is-someone-youve-seen-before-guggenheim-says/
So, no doubt, Vigilante is someone that we've seen unmasked.
So, no doubt, Vigilante is someone that we've seen unmasked.
Vigilante's identity no longer matters, just as the remainder of Arrow's Season 5 narrative no longer matters, and just as the show's entire Season 6 narrative isn't going to matter.
Legends of Tomorrow "humped" the entire Earth-1 part of the Arrowverse and made The Flash and Arrow's narratives completely irrelevant and obsolete.
Legends of Tomorrow "humped" the entire Earth-1 part of the Arrowverse and made The Flash and Arrow's narratives completely irrelevant and obsolete.
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I don't know why you're laughing, because there's nothing funny about this situation at all.
"Just repeat to yourself, 'It's just a show, I should really just relax.'"
^ Yes, these are only television series, but they're television series that I care about and am interested in and that have now been irrevocably screwed up, leaving me no reason to actually care about them.
Dude, you call yourself a "writer" right there in your name. If you can't think of a dozen narrative conceits, cheats, shortcuts or after-the-fact rationalizations that can keep the narratives from affecting each other, especially when the central show in question is about TIME-TRAVELING, then you're not doing your job right.
Have you ever read comics?
Yes, I identify myself as a writer, but that doesn't mean I'm required to "handwave" away a scenario in which we're going to be presented with 3 different, vastly incompatible narratives.
Time is Wibbly-Wobbly, not linear.
^ Not when you're going to have Arrow and The Flash's next two seasons dropping 2018 and 2019 dates - which they will - at the same time you're going to have Legends' next couple of seasons attempting to fix problems that originated in 2017.
Wrong. The problem originated in 1916, with the time storm the Legends caused. The "broken" 2017 Los Angeles they found was an aftereffect of that time storm. Presumably its other effects are scattered all through history, because that's what this show is about -- visiting a different period in history each week. How those disruptions relate to the primary Earth-1 timeline has not yet been defined.
Yeah, seriously, that cliffhanger merely pointed to the mission for next season (or at least the premiere episode), which is undoing this mess, which they'll do.
Also, why are we talking about the storyline of LoT in the Arrow thread, anyway?!
Also, why are we talking about the storyline of LoT in the Arrow thread, anyway?!
Which is fine, but that doesn't eliminate that Vigilante still can be Adrian Chase. If Prometheus has used Chase as an alias, then the real Chase could be out there, and perhaps is one of the background characters we've seen thus far. And we have 'seen' Chase before, with Prometheus assuming the identity. This assertion by Guggenheim could be misdirection. I mean they were adamant about not bringing Laurel back too, and while technically they haven't (if we're not counting the Dominator crossover and the Legends finale), they have brought the actress back, and really they have brought Laurel back, just the Earth 2 version. Why would Guggenheim at this point spoil the fun of revealing Vigilante's identity anyway? I think they had fun and a great swerve by making "Chase" Prometheus, but I'm guessing they'll revert back to honoring the comics more.
For process of elimination, if memory serves, we've seen Team Arrow and Vigilante together at the same time so it can't be one of them (though I'm not sure about Ragman). Though I don' t think we've seen Thea, Lance, Susan Williams, Roy, Malcolm, Nyssa, or Pike interacting with Vigilante so those are all possibilities. Tommy, Moira, Billy Malone, Andy Diggle, Robert Queen, Ra's Al Ghul could still be alive somehow but I'm skeptical about that. I don't know who would be a likely culprit that we've seen before that would work as Vigilante. Wild Cat is another possibility. Curtis's husband another, though his strong anti-vigilante stance makes that unlikely to me.
I'll also throw out Deathstroke, Deadshot, Komodo, Huntress also as possibilities, but it just feels like that's going too far, and why would they get override their more standard superhero identities for Vigilante? Deathstroke and Deadshot might want to do that to avoid legal problems, though Deathstroke would seemingly be more concerned with destroying Oliver than fighting crime and with Deadshot I don't get the rationale.