I'm pleasantly surprised at how fast that impersonation was uncovered.
Spoilers Arrow - Season 5
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I wondered about that too. Prometheus obviously knows a lot about Team Arrow thanks to Artemis, but Artemis wasn't present for the events of "Invasion!" I suppose her teammates could've filled her in on it between "Invasion!" and "What We Leave Behind," but it's possible that Prometheus will turn out to be someone even more closely connected to the team than we thought.
I think he'll still be in the field, but he'll be fighting with gadgets more than with fists. That's Mr. Terrific's thing in the comics, I believe. We've already seen Curtis working on a prototype of the "T-Spheres" the character uses in the comics, hovering drones that Mr. Terrific controls and that have multiple functions.
She doesn't have a sonic scream; she just threw those guys through the window the old-fashioned way.
The preview for next week showed her using the scream, but I assume she's wearing Laurel's Canary Cry device.
During that scene just before they go through the window, I swear you can hear a high pitch scream in the background? Are they just using the effect in the background just to fore shadow or did I mis hear it? swear it was there.
^Hmm, apparently you're right. I didn't recognize it as a scream; I must've just thought it was part of the background music (Neely does use a lot of electronic squealy sorts of things in his Arrow scores). But listening to it again, it does sound similar to the Canary Cry.
If they actually are going with a new character as the next Black Canary, that's a bit surprising. I thought they might actually go with a redemption arc for Black Siren, since part of the '60s/'70s BC's backstory is that she was an Earth-2 Justice Society member who relocated permanently to Earth-1 and joined the Justice League after her husband was killed. I thought the show was going for an homage to that.
And watching the preview on freeze-frame confirms that she isn't wearing the Canary Cry choker when she emits her sonic scream.
If they actually are going with a new character as the next Black Canary, that's a bit surprising. I thought they might actually go with a redemption arc for Black Siren, since part of the '60s/'70s BC's backstory is that she was an Earth-2 Justice Society member who relocated permanently to Earth-1 and joined the Justice League after her husband was killed. I thought the show was going for an homage to that.
I think they implied that there could still be a redemption arc for Siren though. Oliver did say if there was any part of Laurel left he was determined to find it. I'm glad they didn't kill her off and there is that possibility of her coming back.
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^Sure, but if this new Black Canary is a keeper rather than another misfire like Artemis, so that Black Siren remains as a distinct role alongside BC, then it's still taking a different path from the Earth-2 Black Canary homage I was expecting.
The new Black Canary is a former Central City Police Detective named Tina Boland, and she's definitely a Metahuman who most likely got her powers from the particle accelerator explosion.
Another good episode, some nice groundwork was laid for Curtis' and Diggle's stories, I liked they acknowledged that Curtis sucks in hand to hand combat and that his strengths lie elsewhere, and as much as I'd like to see the General taken down through legal means, methinks he might have a run in with the Vigilante soon...
Not sure how I feel about the whole "new" Black Canary thing, though.
Why must there be another Canary?
I get that she was the first publicly honored vigilante who died defending the city, and continuing her legacy is supposed represent that heroes will always rise up when one falls, even though technically Green Arrow in the eyes of the public is continuing the legacy of Arrow who they think was Roy Harper and he also "officially" died, so... isn't that lesson kinda already done? Also, there's been so many new masked heroes rising up, it shouldn't really matter if they're named the same...
I think the writers realized they screwed up last season by killing Laurel, so they're trying to make it right by having a new Black Canary, but this seems to miss the mark. Laurel wasn't important because of her powerset and moniker, she was important because she had personal history with Oliver, she was his oldest friend and they've been through a lot, and she's been through a lot independent of him as well.
This new lady doesn't seem to have any connection with either Laurel or Oliver, so she's just another masked hero, and there's plenty of those around... but we'll see, am willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt on the strength of the season so far.
Anyways, like Oliver, regardless of how the new Canary situation plays out I'm still hoping they'll do an eventual redemption arc for Siren, that to me would have been a more interesting way to go, to see how her life differed, and how she might begin to make things right. And I'd like to see her meet Sara at some point.
Oh, and I'm sooooo glad she blew up that hideous statue, and that Oliver acknowledged they could do better than that
Not sure how I feel about the whole "new" Black Canary thing, though.
Why must there be another Canary?
I get that she was the first publicly honored vigilante who died defending the city, and continuing her legacy is supposed represent that heroes will always rise up when one falls, even though technically Green Arrow in the eyes of the public is continuing the legacy of Arrow who they think was Roy Harper and he also "officially" died, so... isn't that lesson kinda already done? Also, there's been so many new masked heroes rising up, it shouldn't really matter if they're named the same...
I think the writers realized they screwed up last season by killing Laurel, so they're trying to make it right by having a new Black Canary, but this seems to miss the mark. Laurel wasn't important because of her powerset and moniker, she was important because she had personal history with Oliver, she was his oldest friend and they've been through a lot, and she's been through a lot independent of him as well.
This new lady doesn't seem to have any connection with either Laurel or Oliver, so she's just another masked hero, and there's plenty of those around... but we'll see, am willing to give the writers the benefit of the doubt on the strength of the season so far.
Anyways, like Oliver, regardless of how the new Canary situation plays out I'm still hoping they'll do an eventual redemption arc for Siren, that to me would have been a more interesting way to go, to see how her life differed, and how she might begin to make things right. And I'd like to see her meet Sara at some point.
Oh, and I'm sooooo glad she blew up that hideous statue, and that Oliver acknowledged they could do better than that
Which is how Black Siren got her powers over on Earth-2. So maybe Tina was standing in the same place on Earth-1 when the dark-matter wave hit?
I'm somewhat kidding, but it's never been clear just what determines who gets what power, whether it's genetics or something else. Earth-2 Cisco and Dante Ramon were both metahumans with different powers, but the Mardon brothers both got weather-control powers, though they were together when the wave hit. And some metas seem to have gotten abilities influenced by their physical surroundings when the wave hit, like Mirror Master or Tarpit.
From what I understand, the Ollie/Laurel romance had already been explored, with Ollie ending up with Felicity, so there was no other direction for Laurel's character.
http://ew.com/article/2016/04/06/arrow-laurel-death-spoilers/
As for having a new Black Canary on the show, that would be consistent with Laurel's dying wish for Ollie to find her replacement.
Laurel had a story of her own on Arrow, independent of Oliver, to say that a strong female character's only possible purpose is to be the romance option for the male lead is just, ugh...
There's no reason why she wished for that, except as an excuse for writers to write in another Black Canary.
The kind thing would be to let the guy fly around on the Waverider with his daughter. He clearly can't cope without family.
I never understodd how these vigilantes are known to the public in depth.
The hood was hunted because he was a murderer. he got plenty of press, but hardly good press.
Black Canary beat up men in dark allys in the dead of night.
Was there a public adventure in the light of day?
I'm thinking of that crossover where Sisko wants a photograph of the Canary like he's at a comic book convention because she is Superfamous, even though Laurel had been on the scene for 5 seconds.
Weird.
The hood was hunted because he was a murderer. he got plenty of press, but hardly good press.
Black Canary beat up men in dark allys in the dead of night.
Was there a public adventure in the light of day?
I'm thinking of that crossover where Sisko wants a photograph of the Canary like he's at a comic book convention because she is Superfamous, even though Laurel had been on the scene for 5 seconds.
Weird.
He can't cope that well with weird stuff either. I think all the time travel and superpowers would be too much for him. And I doubt he and Mick would get along well...
So did Prometheus break Black Canary out of Star Labs or Iron Heights? I think it was Star Labs. But wouldn't it have set off some type of alarm that would have brought the Flash to check it out and how could Prometheus avoid the Flash? Seems like a bit of a plot hole.
The Black Canary title is currently unclaimed, but Prometheus did go to Central City and break Black Siren out of the STAR Labs pipeline. Although that does raise some troubling questions about why they didn't either remand her to Iron Heights or return her to Earth-2 for arrest and trial there.
Both shows' midseason finales were set around Christmas, but this week's Flash episode picked up a month later, while this week's Arrow episode picked up immediately after the cliffhanger. So if Prometheus broke Black Siren out three days before said cliffhanger, that means he probably did it while Team Flash was preoccupied with Alchemy and Savitar. Maybe that's also why the Flash wasn't available to come to Star City and help apprehend Black Siren, who would be his responsibility.
The timelines on these shows can get so screwy sometimes.
