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Arrow - Season 3

which means that by the end of season 5, the flashbacks will catch up with the start of the show. So at that point they'll have to either end the show or abandon the flashback-driven format.
It's a built in cost cutting measure. They'll just use old clips of the show for the flashbacks.
 
^You're not getting what I'm saying. Yes, stipulated, Sarah's problems are objectively much bigger and more troubling -- but Laurel seems far more haunted by hers. No matter how open she's able to be about them, no matter how many mechanisms there are for her to cope with them, she still handles them badly and often quite stupidly (there was no excuse for hiding Sarah's death from Quentin), while Sarah handled her issues with rather more grace. Laurel is a dysfunctional, messed-up, whiny, and rather pathetic individual who makes consistently terrible and self-destructive life choices, and I have never seen the faintest trace of the "light" Felicity claims to see in her.


I agree , that "light" within Laurel business was bogus. :rolleyes:

If anyone on this show has a light shining within, its Felicity!

I wonder if the reason Sarah seems less screwed up than Laurel, even with all the killing in Sarah's past is because despite it all Sarah found love in her life.

Laurel lost her lover and her baby sister when that yacht sank and she couldn't even mourn them properly because they each betrayed her enroute to their "deaths".

When she decided she loved Tommy, he died on her.

When she thought about giving Ollie another try, Sarah came back and snagged him away from her.

But Sarah, remorseful assassin though she was, loved Ollie, teased Felicity, was a mentor/big sister to Syn and ran away with the woman who saved her in (?) more ways than one.

I'm glad Sarah can finally be properly mourned by her father and sister.

Although I'd prefer our Sarah was still with us in present time.
 
Don't really know what to think about "Canaries".

First off - everyone seems to think that Ollie's been on a pleasure cruise while they defended the city against Brick. And that impression is not really helped by Oliver not showing any signs of injury. Apparently that penicillin-tea was reeeally effective.

Thea... I like the fact that she was able to surprise Oliver by her reaction but I definitely didn't need her gushing about how heroic his deeds are. I'm really looking forward to the day she learns just what she did, now that she's back to cursing Merlyn's name. And I'm especially looking forward to Merlyn's justification for using Thea to kill Sara.

Lauren... first of all, I'm glad Quentin figured the Canary part out for himself (albeit with Syn's help), and I'm glad that he finally knows about Sara. Thought his reaction was quite moving. Lauren herself... I can't quite get a handle on her. And actually I don't see the light in her that Felicity claims is there (although I really could do without Felicity's moral speeches, the one last week to Oliver was quite enough to last for this season). The only thing defining her is loss/grief or rather what has happened to her, but there's not been much that shows her character without those outside influences. Who is she?

No Ray, so that was a definite advantage here.
 
I'm glad Ollie told Thea about how Sara died. That secret was a weapon Slade and Merlyn could wield too easily against the siblings.

I just wished he also told her about Ra's "killing him" once this year to avenge Sara's death.

I also wish when Ollie told Thea not to tell Laurel about her role in Sara's death that it was okay to discuss it with Roy, Diggle and Felicity since they already know.

The girl has to have someone to vent to.
 
Question: Why does Sara's tombstone display 1987 - 2007? That would make her only 20 years old, not to mention she died in 2014.

Good episode, although Slade Wilson was underused. The only reason he became a threat to Ollie and Thea was because Merlyn released him on purpose to bring about the Queens' killer instincts.

The secret "homecoming" in the flashback was difficult for Oliver because he resisted every urge to make contact with Thea or any of his friends. Marc Singer is much older now, but I still remember him from the original V series in the 1980s as well as the movie Beastmaster.
 
Was China White's bidding war held in the factory that would one day hold Verdant and the foundry, or was it nondescript warehouse #487? It was hard to tell, and maybe wishful thinking that they would make that connection along with all the others to season one.
 
I'm sure it was the same factory. It struck me as a reference; they wouldn't have put it in a Queen Consolidated factory otherwise.
 
It was odd having the flashbacks in Starling City and the present day parts set on the island, but I loved it when Thea disarmed Slade. Felicity and Diggle's scenes felt alittle forced into the plot. But I do like how much stronger Laurel seems to be now.
 
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Was China White's bidding war held in the factory that would one day hold Verdant and the foundry, or was it nondescript warehouse #487? It was hard to tell, and maybe wishful thinking that they would make that connection along with all the others to season one.

Certainly in the same vicinity. They used the same establishing shot that they use for Verdant, I think.

Speaking of building facades, I could've sworn I saw the Empire State Building in the translight backdrop outside Thea's apartment window in the closing minutes.

So now we get Marc Singer as General Matthew Shrieve -- who in the comics is the head of the Creature Commandos, basically classic movie monsters as soldiers. I doubt we'll be getting Dracula and Frankenstein and so forth in the show, though, unless they're just code names for Shrieve's men.

It's interesting that Shrieve says he'll take Oliver anywhere he wants to go once he's debriefed. Sure, he may turn out to be lying; but I wonder if maybe Oliver will choose to go back to Lian Yu, now that he's accepted his mission to Save This City. Maybe he intends to use the island as a crucible and train until he's ready to begin his mission. Taking Thea there to train in the present day could be a setup for that development in the flashbacks of future episodes (okay, that wasn't chronologically confusing at all).
 
I was also thinking that Oliver will choose to return to the island.

Oliver mentioned that there is one other prisoner besides Slade. I wonder if they are captured during the last flashbacks of the season.
 
Oliver mentioned that there is one other prisoner besides Slade. I wonder if they are captured during the last flashbacks of the season.

The other prisoner is Digger Harkness (Captain Boomerang), who was captured and sent to the ARGUS prison at the end of the Flash/Arrow crossover earlier this season.
 
Oliver still has to visit Russia and become part of the mafia at some point - I'm guessing this would be part of season 4. I had previously thought that his adventures would take him to Russia in S4 and then back to Starling in S5 so he could lay the groundwork for his "rescue" as seen in the series premiere; now it seems that up to the two years prior are more served as Oliver's proactive background story as he sets himself up to begin his quest and he could potentially be ANYWHERE the story needs him to be. Interesting indeed.

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