That would require teaching by example. Bitching and moaning is so much more fun, even though it sets a poor example---wait a sec....
Aren't kids being taught manners anymore?
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Yeah, but that's not the kids' problem, it's the people who like to complain about the kids' problem.
junxon, I would argue that people are people, no matter their age. I've known some very sweet elderly people and one sadly in my own family that is horribly rude.
The situation the OP mentioned is definitely difficult. The old man with the walker might've resented the help and perhaps the kid sensed it.
ed629
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I can think of one example that really pissed me, I was working as manager at a fast food place, many many moons ago. And One the girls that worked there, highschool kid about 16-17 found a purse in the trashcan in the women's restroom. She brought it out, and by checking the ID we were able to look up here phone number in the phone book. I called her and explained that one the girls had found it in the trash, she said she'd come and get it. Once there she became batshit crazy bitch from hell. She snatched the purse from the girl who found and went mega-bitch crazy on the girl. The cash she had in it was gone, and started blaming the girl for taking it. I went up to front to try and calm her down. She started bitching at me wanted me to fire the girl, after telling her that if the girl hadn't found it she never would of gotten her purse back. So then she starts me that she was holding the girl and myself personally responsible for the missing money. She went outside and called 911 to get a police officer over. He came and asked the girl and myself what happened. I explained to him what happened, he talked to mega-bitch as well. I then showed him the security that showed the girl went to the restroom without a purse and came back with it. Another camera showed her going into the restroom without as well, and did show someone else going in with a purse that looked like mega-bitch's. After talking to us and mega-bitch he issued her a citation to appear for cruelty to a child, since the girl was under 18.
So I can see why some people refuse to acknowledge or help others with cases like this one.
There's also that phenomenon that happens when a guy lies dying on the street. People stare. Some people get annoyed at the people staring at the guy. And they constantly shout "Why don't you help him?". But do they help him themselves? No.
doubleohfive
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Yeah... kind of like when someone spills something and someone else says "Quick, someone get a towel!"
Uh, why can't YOU get the fucking towel?
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Amaris
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Maybe someone's closer to the towels.
doubleohfive
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You can tell how Larry has changed. Current Larry would never put up with that woman yelling at him like that.
I had a manager at my old job that would pick up bits of trash and then put them in my hand and ask me to throw them away...even though she was just as far away from the garbage can as I was.
doubleohfive
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Ugh, that's disgusting and demeaning. What kind of job was it where a boss could do something like that?
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Amaris
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Probably food service. I knew a manager like that.
Yes, and [on reflection] he may have been browbeaten into not speaking to strangers, especially old men in public toilets.
My parents raised me in ye olde fashioned "children should be seen and not heard, sit down and keep your mouth shut" style. And I've seen people using this method with their children more recently. I can think of several situations when I didn't help someone because I was too scared to offer to help them, so I walked on. I don't doubt they'd have been bitching about me online had teh internet existed during my childhood/teenage years
I think tsq mentioned that quote a few pages back. As usual, she was spot on.
It's a very parental attitude. I'll make my kids pick up trash, even if I'm closer to it. But it's always their own mess they're cleaning up. The idea is to impress upon them the importance of cleaning up after yourself.
A manager doing that to a subordinate is demeaning, I agree, precisely because it evokes the same kind of parent/child dynamic. In fact, I'd say a manager doing it is even worse, if they're making you pick up someone else's trash. The message there is more, "I am too good to touch trash, but you're enough of a slovenly peon to be worthy of it." Not really any kind of "lesson" there.
Yup. Funny how civilization has been in decline since day one, huh?
God, I wish.
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