Are you a feminist?

[Thestral]

Maybe I've just been around the wrong women, but I've definitely gotten the impression that as a man I can never be an actual feminist or that it's not my place to claim it, though certainly an ally/supporter. So that's what I've come to think of myself as. And that's actually not a joke, more a sense of not really knowing what to do with that.

You've been around the wrong women.

I'm beginning to get that impression.

 

[scotpens]

Times are changing, with the newer generations coming into the work force, woman look to be on top.

And a lot of men like it like that!

 

[Nerys Ghemor]

Just out of curiosity the statement that men and women are equal has been coming up a lot here. What do you actually mean by it? One of the reasons radical feminism became kind of a silly caricature of themselves is the attempt to say men and women are equal as in "there are no inherent differences between the two" rather than the "men and women should be equal under the law" usage which I imagine is what most people mean by it.

I think there are differences between the two if you take the whole, but equality under the law--and I would add equality of human dignity--means that a man with a particular skill set and a woman with the same skill set should be treated the same, regardless of how statistically likely they might be to have that particular preference.

(I make a distinction between preference and ability. There are certain things I could do very well in certain male-dominated fields. I just don't feel like cultivating those skills, but I'm sure I could if I had to.)

 

[Tora Ziyal]

You are a man who clearly does not know the definition of feminist. Here, let me help:

— n
1. a person who advocates equal rights for women

— adj
2. of, relating to, or advocating feminism

Yeah, I've never understood why some men feel that way. It's perfectly possible to support equal rights for women and be male. It doesn't make you less of a man or anything ridiculous like that.

I was making a joke that obviously didn't go over well.

People are just TOO damned sensitive. I really hate the PC generation sometimes, and am often ashamed to be a part of it.

It wasn't necessarily a matter of people being too sensitive or PC to be amused. To me, it sounded like you were being serious.

 

[iguana_tonante]

I have to say, I have given 'real' pizza a number of tries in some really lovely places in Italy (and no, I don't follow the tourist crowd ) and I do prefer the dish Americans call 'pizza' to yours. Granted, yours almost certainly uses better ingredients, and is better for you, I've always found it lacking. I love pizza with excess sauce, and every one I had was more like they'd just dyed the middle of the dough red.
If you could combine the dough of the Italian version with the toppings of the American version, you'd have me sold.

Heh. My aversion to foreign versions of pizza is mostly for show anyway: as an Italian, it is my sworn duty to mock and criticize any attempt to emulate our food. On a personal level, I'm sure most of them are tasty and good in their own way: just don't tell anyone I said that.

 

[Nick086]

I support women for equal rights in the work force and inside and outside of the home. I have a dislike for men hating butch lesbian feminists that would give a guy a Wolverine steal toe boot in the groins.

 

[TheBrew]

I am probably the only feminist (-ish) person in the office. That includes the one woman we have here! We had a discussion a few weeks ago about if we preferred female or male bosses and I was the only one who said "I don't care as long as they are a good BOSS." Even the woman in the office preferred male bosses.

As long as a person is qualified, then I don't care what is between their legs. The only differences that have to be taken into account as biological ones (mainly birth and child-rearing). In that area there is an inherent inequality that society can't address adequately.