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Spoilers Arachnids in the UK grade and discussion thread

How do you rate Arachnids in the UK?


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Final Figure: 8.22m

This week's will probably be the first not to cross 8 million but should get pretty close to it.
 
Depends if the overnight drop was related to fireworks events, I suppose. If so it may get more timeshift.
Final Figure: 8.22m

This week's will probably be the first not to cross 8 million but should get pretty close to it.

AI still hovering around the 83 mark, amazing to consider the show used to get into the high 80s with Matt and Tennant, I wonder if it'll ever get that back? And I wonder how much store the BBC put in the AI anyway? Just checked and hadn't realised that Ecclestone's AI figures were quite low in the beginning.
 
And I wonder how much store the BBC put in the AI anyway? Just checked and hadn't realised that Ecclestone's AI figures were quite low in the beginning.

It's pretty much the only show on television where the numbers are mentioned and even then only ever by fans. Higher audiences tend to result in lower numbers as more casual people watch, so an 83 for Capaldi is "worse" than an 83 for Jodie but no, the BBC aren't going to care all that much when it's in the Top 3-5 shows every week and (currently) 47% up in viewers on last series.
 
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If Yaz is a cop, then one of the boys needs to find a Roman Centurion Uniform.

If Yaz and Graeme hookup, (Ryan would have to call Yaz "Gran" and) Ryan is going to turn into this season's big bad.
 
I just managed to struggle through this (I've been chipping away at it for a week, because it is too boring to watch all at once). This is the most bland, boring piece of shit in the entire franchise. Not the worst episode technically, but easily the least interesting, most bland thing ever (dethroning another Chibnail "classic", The Power of Three). Even that comparison is a little unfair to that episode, since at least the Doctor, Amy and Rory were still interesting even if the base plot was bland and boring. Imn this the companions are a non-Factor and The Doctor is a complete idiot.

No Doctor would refuse to kill a fucking non-sentient Spider. The Doctor is not a psychotic pacifist, except apparently to Chibnail she is. Seriously, the 13th Doctor would have died about 1000 times over if she had to experience Classic Who scenarios. She'd probably try to pet the Merkur, kiss the Mara and offer herself up to the Cybermen for conversion just so she wouldn't be hurting their feelings. The 13th Doctor is the most spineless Timelord ever. This Doctor has nothing to her but shitty small talk and a dangerous hatred of actually doing anything. If the writing wasn't having to bend to Chibnail's will, she'd have never have solved any of the situations so far. Sometimes, The Doctor has to fight, get angry, or even just fucking do something besides act like a fucking dumbass.

Also, while I'll agree that in real life Donald Trump is one of the most vile, dangerous and outright evil people in a position of power in the world, Diet Trump in this episode was just obnoxious and irritating (and not in the way a villain is supposed to be). He may actually be worse then last weeks villain, since it feels like you could delete him entirely and only have to slightly tweak the story. At least last week the villain, while having an evil plot that would change absolutely nothing except a name in the history books, had a a point in the main story.

So, Arachnids in the UK was probably the biggest waste of time I've experienced in a long time, even more so then the worthless 45 minute pile of junk that was last weeks episode. Chibnail certainly has the market cornered on bland, worthless junk episodes.
 
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I just managed to struggle through this (I've been chipping away at it for a week, because it is too boring to watch all at once). This is the most bland, boring piece of shit in the entire franchise. Not the worst episode technically, but easily the least interesting, most bland thing ever (dethroning another Chibnail "classic", The Power of Three). Even that comparison is a little unfair to that episode, since at least the Doctor, Amy and Rory were still interesting even if the base plot was bland and boring. Imn this the companions are a non-Factor and The Doctor is a complete idiot.

No Doctor would refuse to kill a fucking non-sentient Spider. The Doctor is not a psychotic pacifist, except apparently to Chibnail she is. Seriously, the 13th Doctor would have died about 1000 times over if she had to experience Classic Who scenarios. She'd probably try to pet the Merkur, kiss the Mara and offer herself up to the Cybermen for conversion just so she wouldn't be hurting their feelings. The 13th Doctor is the most spineless Timelord ever. This Doctor has nothing to her but shitty small talk and a dangerous hatred of actually doing anything. If the writing wasn't having to bend to Chibnail's will, she'd have never have solved any of the situations so far. Sometimes, The Doctor has to fight, get angry, or even just fucking do something besides act like a fucking dumbass.

Also, while I'll agree that in real life Donald Trump is one of the most vile, dangerous and outright evil people in a position of power in the world, Diet Trump in this episode was just obnoxious and irritating (and not in the way a villain is supposed to be). He may actually be worse then last weeks villain, since I'm still not sure how he was involved with the plot or if he really just existed for the companion's non-Spider related subplot. At least last week the villain, while having a plot that would change absolutely nothing except a name in the history books, had a a pointin the main story.

So, Arachnids in the UK was probably the biggest waste of time I've experienced in a long time, even more so then the worthless 45 minute pile of junk that was last weeks episode. Chibnail certainly has the market cornered on bland, worthless junk episodes.

Had to wait for a Supergirl ep this week, huh?
 
Had to wait for a Supergirl ep this week, huh?

I'm still catching up on the last season, Season 3, of Supergirl on netflix, so I'm not watching it weekly on the CW. Its ok, although I feel nauseous whenever Blueniac 5 shows up and the worldkillers aren't super interesting as villains. I can't speak about the current season, Season 4, because like I said I'm not there yet.

Also, I'm not the poster that I'm 99% sure you're referencing, but won't mention by name because its not relevant. Nice...burn, I guess? :shrug:
 
I won't say I enjoyed that episode. I mean I kinda did, but .... spiders!!!! Overall it was a pretty good episode (although my 14yo son and me watched it with our feet up on the couch - and the rest of the family just said "No!!!"). I don't agree with most of the complaints really.
The "Trump clone" was pretty mild in comparison to the real thing as far as I can tell.
The Doctor not wanting to kill the spiders didn't occur to me. It was pretty clear (to me) that she was happy to kill them (especially as they were going to die anyway once they got too big to breath), she just wanted to make sure it was done humanely. And while it wasn't obvious, there was clearly time between them getting out of the hotel and the companions deciding to join with the Doctor, that would allow for the euthanasing of the spiders in the panic room and tracking down of any that were outside the hotel.
Overall I'd call it a good episode (although I'm not sure I'll be in a hurry to watch it again).

Addendum: My son just wandered past to give his opinion "it was as scary as hell".
 
What? so Yas and Ryan won't hook up?

She's a cop, and he's not that smart.

She can do better, unless he's the only other human being in what ever galaxy they happen to be visiting.

What was up with Yaz's mum trying to hunt for Yaz's Lover?

I don't think that she has brought any one home to meet the parents, ever.

Which could mean that she is hiding her orientation, or that she is a virgin.

Considering the climate in the real world, Yaz is not going to hook up with anyone.
 
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Briskly enjoyable creature feature episode, though, arach-nerd that I can be, I did spend more time wondering what species those gorgeously-animated (DNEG are bringing the CG goods so far) spiders were than being afraid of them (in contrast to my friend, who watched much of it through his fingers!). Sometimes they looked like house spiders, sometimes not so much. An amalgam, maybe?

Loving the 13th Doctor's compassion; she's already gone a long way to balancing out 12 in that regard. Turns out Bradley Walsh can break your heart with ease, Ryan's growing nicely, but I agree Yas needs more attention. The ep revolving around her grandma should provide that, though.

Keeping a good, solid standard so far, with one standout. :-)
 
I thought this was poor writing.. I think Jodie and the others are acting wonderfully.. I really like the 13th Doctor in general. But some of the writing is just not very Doctor Who at all.

In decades past, the Doctor would have found a clever way to deal with the spiders that did not involve killing them nor letting them die. How about storing them all in a dimensional cage aboard the TARDIS, then dropping them off on the actual freaking PLANET OF THE SPIDERS ?

No, we are going to lock them all in a panic room and let them suffocate or starve to death over time. How is that not inhumane? I agree with the jackwagon who wanted to put a bullet in their heads. That would be quick and more merciful than the good Doctor's plan.

Just not very well thought out as an episode.. it feels like Chibnall just doesn't know how to write a good story.. he starts with an interesting premise, as this was, but then just can't seem to get it home.
 
Spiders eat their young.

They seem to be able to produce enough little spiders to feed the big spiders until the biggies get too big to breathe, and the little spiders eat the big corpses.

That's an ecosystem.

The spider-race could thrive in that panic room for millions of years.
 
Spiders eat their young.

They seem to be able to produce enough little spiders to feed the big spiders until the biggies get too big to breathe, and the little spiders eat the big corpses.

That's an ecosystem.

The spider-race could thrive in that panic room for millions of years.

Interesting thought.. but what about spider waste? That room was still a finite space... even if the physical bodies of living vs dead spiders balanced out, their waste cannot get re-eaten and absorbed.. it would just reappear the next time they pass it. And this is assuming that the young spiders would collectively provide enough nutrition for the large ones.. if they did not, then they'd run out of little spiders far too soon and there would be too few little ones to either reproduce or replace the large spiders.

Also, if it was that toxic garbage fill that caused this, why not all sorts of other insects also being affected?? Why only spiders? Didn't they say that the toxicity mutated them in some way? Or was it just being dumped there in general relocated them and gave them an endless food supply?
 
The first spider was genetically modified in a lab.

It was supposed to have been killed in the lab before being sent to a disposal site.
 
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