Anyone else love the catsuits?

[kitsune]

Cool, I'll have to take a closer look. When she started wearing grey like everyone else, I assumed it was with pants like the rest of the cast.

I never noticed the uniqueness of her uniform, either...

 

[kitsune]

Okay, this is kind of off-topic, but Kate brought it up...I've never understood why women wear high heels. Now I don't know from experience because I've never worn them myself, but they've always looked very uncomfortable to me. I always thought the main reason they exist is because some guys (not me) find them sexy. But what practical purpose does it serve to wear shoes that bend and elevate your feet like that?

I find high heels almost as unattractive as shoes with pointed toes. They're unorthopedic, painful to wear, impractical or unsafe in many situations, and they deform womens' feet.

 

[kitsune]

Another regular has told me, and she might very well be correct, that most of the Trek woman wore high heels since they are very flattering to the female figure.

That is a matter of opinion.

I agree that a real Seven of Nine would never have worn them. She valued efficiency and practicality, concepts which are antithetical to wearing high-heeled shoes...

 

[Captain X]

It always irritated me that they made Dax's uniform so much tighter than everyone else's, though Kira's uniform in season 7 was a lot worse. At least they usually shot Jadzia from the waist up - camel toe would have made it that much more annoying during scenes where I was supposed to be taking her seriously.

 

[Anwar]

Frankly, I didn't have a problem with Kes' tighter outfits especially once they got her out of the wig and let her grow the hair out. That blue one we saw at the start of the thread being a rather tasteful example.

Ryan looked better those times we saw her in more normal clothing, and still would have fit the sex appeal thing they wanted. Blalock would've been better without the wig, and the suit kind of made her look anorexic at points.

So, in some cases the tighter outfits work, others not so much.

 

[The Badger]

T'Pol like many characters was at maximum sexiness in the mirror universe.

You know why? Because she was showing some skin, and that it is the exact problem with cat-suits, they cover all the skin. Show me some nicely toned stomachs, legs or cleavage and I'll enjoy it, but why would I want to see a beautiful body covered up by a ridiculous looking outfit?

Well, for catsuit fanciers they are popular precisely because they cover up the skin. Lots of bare skin, whilst by no means unsexy, can also seem obvious, even blatant. A catsuit is concealing, yet being so tight shows off the figure almost as if the wearer were nude. It is this contrast between concealment and display that makes them so intriguing to some.
As an illustration of this point, whilst I personally find Halle Berry to be more attractive than Michelle Pfieffer, I found the latter looked far sexier in her Catwoman costume than the former did in hers.
Not everyone will agree. And that's fine. IDIC. But for those of us with that sort of mind the catsuits were great.

 

[LadyPenelope]

I loved Seven's catsuit, and T'Pol's. I think T'Pol's looked nice to wear, and practical. Seven's wasn't practical because of the heels but it still looked fab.

I didn't like Kes in a catsuit because that was the same time she had the long hair. The short hair looked waaay better.

And though some people think they're exploitative, i'd rather be wearing a catsuit than a miniskirt if i worked on a starship. Common sense.

 

[Jonas Grumby]

Sorry, but after growing up during the era of William Ware Theiss, I'm afraid the modern-day standard issue Trek catsuit rates a "meh" at best.

 

[Jaespol]

I didn't like Kes in a catsuit because that was the same time she had the long hair. The short hair looked waaay better.

Whaaaaat??

How could you not think this

looked way better than this

???

 

[Michael]

*raises hand* I'm another one who liked Kes' short hair better. But really, there wasn't any episode where she didn't look good.

 

[LadyPenelope]

Yep, Kes with short hair is better ...

In my opinion anyways

 

[Anwar]

Meh, the concept of the Ocampan lifecycle could have been done better. Like having her start off physically as a 10 year old kid and then have her visibly age over a season until she's 16 or so, and then Jennifer Lien.

But yeah, she was much better with the longer hair.

 

[Captain X]

I'm a fan of short hair on women too. But the catsuits still sucked.

 

[JustKate]

Okay, this is kind of off-topic, but Kate brought it up...I've never understood why women wear high heels. Now I don't know from experience because I've never worn them myself, but they've always looked very uncomfortable to me. I always thought the main reason they exist is because some guys (not me) find them sexy. But what practical purpose does it serve to wear shoes that bend and elevate your feet like that?

So you look taller and slimmer I guess.

Yes, high heels (and pointy-toed shoes in general, even when they aren't high heels) elongate the leg line, making the person look taller and slimmer. Plus...how to put this delicately?...they affect how you walk, how you stand, pretty much everything, really.

I find high heels almost as unattractive as shoes with pointed toes. They're unorthopedic, painful to wear, impractical or unsafe in many situations, and they deform womens' feet.

Not necessarily, though they certainly can. Back in the 1940s and 1950s, or so I understand, when women wore them all the time they weren't sleeping, taking a shower or (maybe) cleaning the toilet, they almost certainly did do horrible things to feet. And besides, in those days, having small feet was for some reason a big deal, and so women would squeeze their feet into shoes 1 or 2 sizes too small. High heels or flats, that's an extraordinarily bad idea.

Anyway, if you get well-made shoes that fit properly, you have the commonsense not to wear them when you're going to be on your feet a lot, and you don't wear them all the time, the way women used to, they don't deform the feet. They'll never be as good as a good pair of athletic shoes or hiking boots, of course, but they don't actually have to harm you as long as you're careful.

By the way, I've read that those ballet flats that are so popular aren't good for your feet either, even though they are flat and have rounded toes. The reason is that they have almost no arch support. Oh, well. So much for a fashion trend that makes sense!

If you want to know why I wear high heels (sometimes), it's because...well, because they're pretty. Pretty much the same reason I wear lipstick and earrings, really.

Well, for catsuit fanciers they are popular precisely because they cover up the skin. Lots of bare skin, whilst by no means unsexy, can also seem obvious, even blatant. A catsuit is concealing, yet being so tight shows off the figure almost as if the wearer were nude. It is this contrast between concealment and display that makes them so intriguing to some.
As an illustration of this point, whilst I personally find Halle Berry to be more attractive than Michelle Pfieffer, I found the latter looked far sexier in her Catwoman costume than the former did in hers.
Not everyone will agree. And that's fine. IDIC. But for those of us with that sort of mind the catsuits were great.

You've actually missed a big reason why catsuits are used so often as costumes: Because they only appear to be revealing. Even women with lovely figures are wearing corsets and so on under those things - corsets that narrow an already narrow waist, that flatten some stuff and that, so to speak, exaggerate other stuff. You can't do that with a bare midriff.

Hope I haven't destroyed too many treasured illusions here.

 

[Anwar]

Didn't Jeri Ryan say there was a corset under her catsuit? Or was it just that she kept herself really thin all the time?

 

[Chess Piece Face]

I found the catsuits obvious, insulting, borderline retarded and not sexy at all.

For some reason I had none of these problems with the 60's minis. I guess I just thought that tv should be smarter now and not smack us in the face with obvious, gratuitous outfits on our professional crewmembers.

 

[Delta1]

I agree that a real Seven of Nine would never have worn them. She valued efficiency and practicality, concepts which are antithetical to wearing high-heeled shoes...

She was also a cyborg. Who's to say the Borg didn't cut off her feet and replace them with high-heeled cybernetic hooves?

The catsuit does a good job of making Seven look like a human woman, and was obviously designed by the Doctor to help her socialize as such, but in fact she's a genderless cybernetic drone who has had large parts of her human anatomy replaced by machines. I suspect underneath the catsuit she's a mess of sloppy surgical scars, Borg hardware, and pasty white skin. And I am happily repressing memories of any Voyager episode that might demonstrate otherwise.

 

[kitsune]

I agree that a real Seven of Nine would never have worn them. She valued efficiency and practicality, concepts which are antithetical to wearing high-heeled shoes...

She was also a cyborg. Who's to say the Borg didn't cut off her feet and replace them with high-heeled cybernetic hooves?

Seven of Nine, barefoot in Equinox:

Admittedly, it's an illusion or dream sequence or something.

Also, she seemed to be wearing normal boots as a Borg, so I doubt they gave her "high-heeled cybernetic hooves":

 

[The Badger]

You've actually missed a big reason why catsuits are used so often as costumes: Because they only appear to be revealing. Even women with lovely figures are wearing corsets and so on under those things - corsets that narrow an already narrow waist, that flatten some stuff and that, so to speak, exaggerate other stuff. You can't do that with a bare midriff.

Hope I haven't destroyed too many treasured illusions here.

Nope, no illusions shattered. I like corsets too. And high heels, for the reasons you outlined.

Hmmm, I'm giving away a bit too much about my psyche in this thread, aren't I?

 

[Anwar]

The Doctor said that her outfit was meant to regenerate any damage done to her body by the Borg implants they couldn't immediately fix. So I guess after a while she'd look more normal (which is why she changed the silver one for the brown and blue ones).