Any words on Batman 3?

[The Borgified Corpse]

I, for one, am not interested in another Catwoman story. It has been done already.

We've already seen some other Catwoman stories. I'm interested in seeing what Nolan's take on the character might be.

I'm very interested in seeing an adaption of Batman: Dark Victory (yes this means Dick Grayson although this will not happen in the Nolan Verse since he has said Robin isn't even a glint in his parents eye yet) and that means including the Selina Kyle/Catwoman from it as well as played by Rachel Weisz. Hey I can dream.

Oh, I'd love to see Rachel Weisz in the third Batman film, but I'd much rather see her as Talia al-Ghul.

Oh, I'd love to see Talia al-Ghul in Batman III. Heck, I'm still holding out hope for Liam Neeson coming back as Ra's al-Ghul. When the shit was really hitting the fan with the Joker in The Dark Knight, I kept expecting Ra's al-Ghul to suddenly show up and tell Batman, "I told you so."

 

[Obiwanshinobi]

Was Ducard really the real Ra's al-Ghul and not Ken Watanabe? I always under the impression, Ducard was just using the name.

 

[Bad Bishop]

I, for one, am not interested in another Catwoman story. It has been done already.

We've already seen some other Catwoman stories. I'm interested in seeing what Nolan's take on the character might be.

These movies are too expensive to be obligatory exercises in reimagining very familiar villains.

The focus of the next film should be the emergence of a major new threat to Gotham City. It should be a threat so terrible that the Gotham police beg for Batman's help instead of hunting him down. Catwoman might not fit the bill, unfortunately.

I do favor the introduction of a new (for a Nolan film) romantic interest for Bruce Wayne. I don't care if her name is Julie, Vicki or Silver.

 

[JacksonArcher]

Ducard was really Ra's Al Ghul. Ken Watanabe was just the decoy.

I've heard Goyer talk about inventing new villains for the third film which true or false would be a neat idea. I mean, after The Joker and Two-Face, who really compares? Yeah, Catwoman, The Riddler and The Penguin are all compelling villains but do they all stack up? Especially after how things went down in The Dark Knight.

I'd still love to see Hugo Strange in a Nolan-directed Batman film, and I'd love to see on the opposite side of the spectrum Nolan come up with original villains.

 

[Broccoli]

How would Nolan pull a Raimi? Avi Arad comes in and demands a bunch of dumbass changes and additions, then takes credit for all the success while blaming everyone else for the failures?

Perhaps his Warner Bros. equivalent.

Anyway, my point concerns of this Raimi idea.

::shudder::

Ducard was really Ra's Al Ghul. Ken Watanabe was just the decoy.

I've heard Goyer talk about inventing new villains for the third film which true or false would be a neat idea. I mean, after The Joker and Two-Face, who really compares? Yeah, Catwoman, The Riddler and The Penguin are all compelling villains but do they all stack up? Especially after how things went down in The Dark Knight.

I'd still love to see Hugo Strange in a Nolan-directed Batman film, and I'd love to see on the opposite side of the spectrum Nolan come up with original villains.

I don't know about the idea of new villains. Sure, Joker is Batman's top villain and he is a tough act to follow, but to discard the rest of Bat's rogue's gallery comes off as a little arrogant. Bats has lots of villains that Nolan can pull from, and villains that can threaten Bats as much as Joker can, but on a completely different level.

That being said, as much as I would like to see the Penguin done right, I would like to see Nolan bring some B-level villains up to the plate like he did was Ra's in BB.

 

[JacksonArcher]

I'm not sure if Goyer meant to supplement the main villains or if he was even telling the truth. It might have been simple misdirection.

Regardless, Nolan's films always have a well-balanced population of villains rather than just one or two. It seems like there's always one main villain (Ra's, The Joker), then a secondary one (Scarecrow, Two-Face) and then one supporting the criminal mafia element (Falcone, Maroni). I still think the trifecta of Riddler (main villain), Catwoman (secondary/love interest) and Oswald Copplepot (mafia element) would fit the Nolan mold best, but you can never know for certain with Nolan. The man always has (creative) tricks up his sleeve.

 

[Bad Bishop]

I'm a little disappointed by Nolan's insistence on keeping things "real" in his BATMAN films. It means that some of the truly fantastic villains from the comic books will never be used, e.g. Killer Croc, Man-Bat, Clayface and Solomon Grundy.

 

[JacksonArcher]

I wouldn't be too disappointed, Bad Bishop. Nolan will likely only do one more Batman film (if that) and then WB will let it rest for a little bit all the while allowing me to make my movies, earn some credibility, and climb the Hollywood ladder so by the time WB is looking to restart the franchise again I'll be in line to takeover the franchise where I'll be much more open to villains such as Killer Croc, Clayface, Man-Bat, Solomon Grundy, etc.

 

[Jax]

Am hoping for a Riddler/Ivy duo with Catwomen in the film but not as an enemy. Ivy could be a hitwomen of sorts who favourite method of killing is of course using poison...Not too metion a Catwomen/Ivy battle would be

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I would also like to see the trifecta of The Riddler/Catwoman/Oswald Copplepot in the established Nolan primary/secondary/mafia set-up. I've always thought the Wayne/Kyle/Batman/Catwoman dynamic is interesting and I would like to see it done properly in film form. I think it would be interesting if neither of them discover the other's alter ego, although I'm willing to admit that might be rather impractical.

 

[Broccoli]

I wouldn't be too disappointed, Bad Bishop. Nolan will likely only do one more Batman film (if that) and then WB will let it rest for a little bit all the while allowing me to make my movies, earn some credibility, and climb the Hollywood ladder so by the time WB is looking to restart the franchise again I'll be in line to takeover the franchise where I'll be much more open to villains such as Killer Croc, Clayface, Man-Bat, Solomon Grundy, etc.

But more importantly, you are going to have Bat-Nipples, right?

 

[Reverend]

I wonder if Nolan could pull off an all girl villain film (Ivy, Harley & Selina) and if indeed it can be done at all.

I can totally believe Ledger's Joker getting inside his own psychiatrist's head and turning her into a twisted imitation of him. Selina in the comics has gotten to a place where she can be more or less lifted right off the page, so I can't see many problems adapting her for the screen. Ivy...I'm not so sure about, she's a little too fantastical and from a characterisation POV she tends to be a little two dimensional.

 

[Pingfah]

I'm happy Nolan's sticking with it, the last thing the franchise needs is a guy like Joel Schumacher to step in

Just let it go, OK?

This is something he should definitely not let go.

Schumacher (despite making several enjoyable films in his career) managed to produce not only the worst product ever to bear the Batman name, and that includes the 60's series, but also one of the worst sci-fi movies ever inflicted upon the world.

I'd rather do a 48 hour marathon of repeated watchings of Plan Nine From Outer Space than ever watch that godawful shitfest again.

 

[Bad Bishop]

I'm happy Nolan's sticking with it, the last thing the franchise needs is a guy like Joel Schumacher to step in

Just let it go, OK?

This is something he should definitely not let go.

Schumacher (despite making several enjoyable films in his career) managed to produce not only the worst product ever to bear the Batman name, and that includes the 60's series, but also one of the worst sci-fi movies ever inflicted upon the world.

I'd rather do a 48 hour marathon of repeated watchings of Plan Nine From Outer Space than ever watch that godawful shitfest again.

You obviously enjoy playing the role of victim. Pathetic.

 

[Pingfah]

What on earth are you blathering about?

 

[Bad Bishop]

What on earth are you blathering about?

Batman & Robin was a trivial event in your life, not a tragedy. You should be able to get past the experience.

 

[Pingfah]

Jeez, I don't like a film you evidently do. No big deal, get over it

 

[Bad Bishop]

Jeez, I don't like a film you evidently do. No big deal, get over it

Neither of us liked the film. But while I brush it off, you're still emotional about it:

I'd rather do a 48 hour marathon of repeated watchings of Plan Nine From Outer Space than ever watch that godawful shitfest again.

 

[Pingfah]

So me expressing the opinion that I don't like the film or the way it was directed and then you getting all huff and puffy, personally attacking me over it, saying i'm "playing the victim" which doesn't even make sense in this context, and calling me pathetic is me getting emotional?

Are you for real? You are aren't you

If you read anything emotional into that, it is merely you projecting mate.

 

[Trent Roman]

I'm a little disappointed by Nolan's insistence on keeping things "real" in his BATMAN films. It means that some of the truly fantastic villains from the comic books will never be used, e.g. Killer Croc, Man-Bat, Clayface and Solomon Grundy.

Nolan's approach is one of naturalism, rather than realism proper; so it just means that these villains would appear in more naturalistic ways. Ra's Al Ghul's is a semi-supernatural character who was ably naturalized for the film; the less gaudy versions of Joker and Two-Face, ditto. Take Man-Bat, for instance: instead of an actual man turning into a bat, he could be one of Batman's vigilante copycats, perhaps one tortured by the Joker, who sinks into psychosis and begins attacking criminals (maybe others?) savagely.

Fictitiously yours, Trent Roman