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Any other TOSers give up post-Abrams?

I look at it this way: Somebody set off some fireworks at an old amusement park and some of the bushes caught fire. That's JJ's movie. Drew in a lot of folks to see the fire, some old timers yelling to put out the fire before it does any real damage, but as it turns out, the bushes weren't near anything of consequence, and if left alone, it'll just burn itself out.

But some folks, who started to get a little bored with the fire, took a look around them to see just where they were, specifically, the rest of the Star Trek franchise, and a lot of them liked what they saw. And it turned out that the old park wasn't abandoned after all. In fact, some of the older parts had just been spruced up a bit. Maybe these old timers who were still going to the old park were on to something.

So, the question to the newcomers is this: Do you want to see what the rest of the place looks like, or do you just want to stare at some burning shrubbery all day? 'Cause the guys who set the first fire? Yeah, they're coming back with more fireworks, and they're probably gonna burn some more bushes, and if that's what floats your boat, fine, but we're got quite a show over on the boardwalk. Why don't you check it out sometime? Might help you understand why this old park has lasted this long.
 
For me...Abrams-Trek has revived the franchise in a way I never believed possible
I agree. I actually found myself saying often about a Trek movie: "I hate this thing." :lol:

I can look at TVH and TFF and most of the other TOS derived films and feel varying degrees of disappointment. I can write off essentially all the TNG derived films. But no Trek before ever instilled disgust and revulsion in me before until Abrams' piece.
 
Look the movie made Trek accesible to anybody and I love it and the exciting possibilities can't wait to the next installment in my opinion.
 
Look the movie made Trek accesible to anybody and I love it and the exciting possibilities can't wait to the next installment in my opinion.
Really? I'm glad you clarified that because some of us weren't sure of your position.

Oh, FYI Trek was already accessible to anybody. Except perhaps to those who need wall-to-wall eye and ear candy loaded with processed sugar that's bad for you.
 
Look the movie made Trek accesible to anybody and I love it and the exciting possibilities can't wait to the next installment in my opinion.
Really? I'm glad you clarified that because some of us weren't sure of your position.

Oh, FYI Trek was already accessible to anybody. Except perhaps to those who need wall-to-wall eye and ear candy loaded with processed sugar that's bad for you.
Get over yourself.
 
^^ And same to you. If some around here can be full of themselves then there's no harm in me playing that way once in awhile.
 
Yawn. We're grown-ups, believe it or not.

If we need you, we'll call you.

I don't need posters who can't listen to a reasonable request of a mod. Say crap like this again to one of my mods and I'll be more than happy to boot your ass out the door. Versteh?
 
No, sorry.

Interjecting into a discussion with a condescending reminder that we are supposed to behave like lobotomised eunuchs at all times is not in the least bit productive.

The notify mod button is there when real problems develop. Moderators should be posters until required to be otherwise.
 
I look at it this way: Somebody set off some fireworks at an old amusement park and some of the bushes caught fire. That's JJ's movie. Drew in a lot of folks to see the fire, some old timers yelling to put out the fire before it does any real damage, but as it turns out, the bushes weren't near anything of consequence, and if left alone, it'll just burn itself out.

But some folks, who started to get a little bored with the fire, took a look around them to see just where they were, specifically, the rest of the Star Trek franchise, and a lot of them liked what they saw. And it turned out that the old park wasn't abandoned after all. In fact, some of the older parts had just been spruced up a bit. Maybe these old timers who were still going to the old park were on to something.

So, the question to the newcomers is this: Do you want to see what the rest of the place looks like, or do you just want to stare at some burning shrubbery all day? 'Cause the guys who set the first fire? Yeah, they're coming back with more fireworks, and they're probably gonna burn some more bushes, and if that's what floats your boat, fine, but we're got quite a show over on the boardwalk. Why don't you check it out sometime? Might help you understand why this old park has lasted this long.

Nice extended metaphor. Works for me.
 
The stories that original Star Trek told were good, but not the Shakespearian literature that some seem to believe.

The new Star Trek movie isn't perfect, but it's pretty damned good. If liking it is akin to an ADHD-afflicted child being dazzled by fireworks, then disliking it is a mere snobbish refusal to accept anything that appeals to a mass audience with both spectacle and substance.

If Roddenberry and the rest had been around today, you can be damned sure you'd have had the same amount of spectacle in it now as the new movie did, and many of the purist naysayers would be singing its praises for freshness and character depth.
 
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