Spoilers Andor - Season 2

[Crewman6]

Lord I hate STID so much. The whole Khan reveal, much like the Blofeld reveal in Spectre, makes zero sense because in both cases it's a reveal for the audience not the characters.

EXACTLY! So true. Ugh, Spectre was the worst and those moments are virtually identical and are equally dumb.

Spectre's real crime was retroactively ruining all the previous Craig Bond movies by saying that "It was Blofeld all along!", which was just mind-numbingly awful.

Also I still think Luke's force projection facing off against the First Order might be one of the most Jedi things ever

Also agree!

 

[Crewman6]

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Sadly, the fate of Mon Mothma is that she had to appear in "Ahsoka", which is a punishment worse even than the prisons on Narkina 5.

 

[Starkers]

EXACTLY! So true. Ugh, Spectre was the worst and those moments are virtually identical and are equally dumb.

Spectre's real crime was retroactively ruining all the previous Craig Bond movies by saying that "It was Blofeld all along!", which was just mind-numbingly awful.

Also agree!

I could accept that Le Chiffre and Dominic Green were Spectre agents all along and that Quantum was just another name for Spectre, but retconning Silva into being a henchman when he was clearly his own man and didn't report to anyone, went against the grain.

 

[TedShatner10]

Spectre's real crime was retroactively ruining all the previous Craig Bond movies by saying that "It was Blofeld all along!", which was just mind-numbingly awful.

Like with Ben saying Rey was a "nobody" (a Palpatine or not) I never took Blofeld's narcissistic, emotionally manipulative and harmful blatherings to Bond completely at face value - I now see (with a fair degree of headcanoning) that Blofeld was an Elon Musk type figure who took advantage of the damage inflicted by Mr. White and Silva earlier on, then claiming it as his own as he climbed to the top of the Quantum/SPECTRE pecking order between the Craig movies.

Also, while I never accepted Silva was ever a formal member of SPECTRE and had far too of an angrily driven ego to be part of the inner circle occupied by White and Blofeld, he was his own man, but I can very much imagine he was a SPECTRE asset or ally who received funding and logistics from Mr. White or Blofeld through hidden proxies (like Marco Sciarra).

 

[David cgc]

I assumed they were going somewhere with there being villains with color-themed names three movies in a row (White, Green, Silva), but I guess having James Bond figure out an obvious clue wouldn’t have been as satisfying as just showing their pictures on a computer screen while the new guy monologued.

 

[TedShatner10]

I assumed they were going somewhere with there being villains with color-themed names three movies in a row (White, Green, Silva), but I guess having James Bond figure out an obvious clue wouldn’t have been as satisfying as just showing their pictures on a computer screen while the new guy monologued.

It treats the audience like idiots and cuts unnecessary corners, but there's enough ambiguity and hidden or offscreen info (Mr. White in hiding and terminally ill after being poisoned) to treat Blofeld as a bloviating cheater who orchestrated a power grab sometime between Skyfall and SPECTRE.

With the ring being vague evidence that a major arms dealer and middle man fixer like Marco Sciarra shook hands with all of Bond's old enemies by partial coincidence.

But we're going drastically off topic now.

 

[The Wormhole]

The whole Khan reveal, much like the Blofeld reveal in Spectre, makes zero sense because in both cases it's a reveal for the audience not the characters.

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