Spoilers Andor - Season 2

[Nerys Myk]

Unique. As in frequently ill-informed and histrionic.

So...you're saying he's on YouTube?

 

[fireproof78]

So...you're saying he's on YouTube?

Welcome to rewarding poor behavior on an unearned platform.

 

[Saul]

I wonder if SuperShadow has a youtube channel....

 

[Crewman6]

Luke Skywalker, the character and the man who played him. JJ Abrams, the director that set up the trilogy and introduced a bunch of questions that were cast aside or thrown out. Characters and items that were held to have significance and more story behind them, such as Snoke, Fin, Captain Phasma, Luke's lightsaber, Kylo Ren's mask, Admiral Ackbar (character and actor). The director that had to follow TLJ and try to find a way to finish the trilogy when Rian (everyone should like what I like) Johnson basically ended the trilogy on part 2 with nowhere for the story or characters to go in part 3.

Please tell me exactly what he respected that came before him. Be specific.

Well, you gave me zero specifics except some vague talk about "questions" and a random list of characters. What "questions" were ignored, exactly? What about those characters was diminished (but Ackbar? Seriously? Ackbar was never going to be an important character and he was a glorified backgrounder in TFA. Gimme a break.)

He respected the story telling and character choices that were laid down in TFA and didn't overwrite them.

For example, many people blame Johnson for turning Luke into a crabby hermit. That's literally what happens in TFA, it is explained very clearly in dialogue that Luke "walked away." Is Luke heroically fighting the First Order in TFA? No, he is not. The movie explicitly says that.

So don't get shocked when the sequel movie shows him not fighting the First Order and actually has to find a reason to justify the choice it was handed. And yet it's somehow Johnson's fault for "ruining" Luke by actually following what TFA laid the groundwork for.

So if you have a specific gripe or issue, let's hear it. Just writing a list and not explaining anything is the opposite of being specific.

So, make a point. Or keep obfuscating and saying nothing.

 

[Crewman6]

Unique. As in frequently ill-informed and histrionic.

I don't think I've watched one of his videos in years (if ever), but I've seen just enough clips of him in reaction videos and, dear god, what a totally unhinged loser he comes across as.

One clip literally has him insisting that you "must" read all of the books and supplemental materials to fully "get" a movie and, if you don't, you're not a true fan and it's your fault for not liking, say, "Rise of Skywalker." Holy crap.....

 

[Crewman6]

I think the first Star Wars merch I bought was a Darth Vader helmet back in the 70s/80s.

When I was a young child very, very long ago and SW was practically brand new, I was one of 6 kids dressed as Darth Vader for Halloween in my kindergarten class.

Digging the bad guys isn't new.

 

[Gaith]

For example, many people blame Johnson for turning Luke into a crabby hermit. That's literally what happens in TFA, it is explained very clearly in dialogue that Luke "walked away." Is Luke heroically fighting the First Order in TFA? No, he is not. The movie explicitly says that.

I'm not a defender of TFA, but a half-truth can be as misleading as a lie, and here's the exchange you're only half-quoting:

HAN​

He was training a new generation of​

Jedi. One boy, an apprentice turned​

against him, destroyed it all. Luke​

felt responsible... He walked away​

from everything.​

FINN​

Do you know what happened to him?​

​

HAN​

There're a lot of rumors. Stories.​

The people who knew him the best​

think he went looking for the first​

Jedi temple.​

That last detail is the movie loudly hinting that Luke "walked away" with some sort of idea or plan. If it was merely to become a "crabby hermit," doing so at the First Jedi Temple would surely be the most petulant place in the universe to do so - possible, I guess, but hardly the only explanation. Again, I personally don't like TFA, but I think it rather more plausible that Luke went off in search of a crazy, long-shot hope for a of Jedi miracle. Maybe he went off looking for some interdimensional portal from which he could, say, send a warning back through time, and thus change tragic history by preventing his apprentice's fall. Call that portal some... world between worlds, or something.

(And, while this is an extratextual detail, so one is free to take it or leave it, Abrams reportedly intended to end the movie with Luke using the Force; Johnson asked him to change it to fit his script.)

many people blame Johnson for turning Luke into a crabby hermit. That's literally what happens in TFA

That's literally not true. Being (apparently) alone doesn't necessarily make one a hermit, because hermits choose to be alone. For all we know from TFA, Luke went off in search of help of some kind and then became stranded, without ever choosing to be alone, so we can't definitively conclude that he's a hermit. And he doesn't act "crabby"; he acts vaguely and mysteriously. The crabbiness starts in TLJ, when he tosses his old saber.

So, make a point. Or keep obfuscating and saying nothing.

Ooh, if we're all handing out pissy advice, here's one for you: stop saying not-true things.