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And the Next Cancelled Show is...

Thanks! The article I read didn't mention that part.

You're welcome. Here is the relevant section of the Hollywood Reporter article:

It's also worth noting that Netflix didn't even have the SVOD rights to Lucifer — Hulu did — meaning that deal had to be reworked, similar to the way Amazon recently revived Syfy’s The Expanse after having to renegotiate SVOD rights as the first three seasons were sold to Netflix.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/l...x-fox-cancellation-1120632?utm_source=twitter

And the Deadline article:


It took time for a deal to be ironed out because the US SVOD rights to the first three seasons of Lucifer are owned by Hulu. Further complicating the situation is the fact that Lucifer is carried by different networks/platforms in different international markets. For instance, Amazon has it in the UK and Germany, which drove the company’s interest in the series. I hear Lucifer now is expected to be on Netflix in the UK as the streaming company tries to clear the show in a as many territories as it can.


https://deadline.com/2018/06/lucife...es-season-4-after-fox-cancelation-1202411666/
 
So the first three seasons of Lucifer might not even be in the USA? Because it said other markets like the UK, but doesn't flatly say the USA. The Expanse has the first three seasons of the show on Amazon, but only in the USA.

I really want Lucifer on Netflix. I watched 1-2 episodes in the first season and loved them, but then didn't have a way to watch it.
 
So the first three seasons of Lucifer might not even be in the USA? Because it said other markets like the UK, but doesn't flatly say the USA. The Expanse has the first three seasons of the show on Amazon, but only in the USA.

I really want Lucifer on Netflix. I watched 1-2 episodes in the first season and loved them, but then didn't have a way to watch it.

The first three seasons are currently available on Hulu in the U.S. It is implied that those seasons will soon be on U.S. Netflix (by the time season 4 is released on Netflix), but the language is a bit vague on the subject.
 
Comedy Central has pulled the plug on The Opposition (Jordan Klepper's replacement for The Nightly Show). The claimed it wasn't due to rating, but due to how politics with Trump, Bannon and Alex Jones have played out. Klepper is getting a new show, called Klepper, in 2019 with many of the same production staff but will go back to field reports as he did on The Daily Show.
Honestly, I'm not surprised by this news. The body of the show hasn't been interesting for me and I mostly watched the show for Jordan's interviews, which were usually engaging and informative (hell, the book I'm reading right stemmed from one of those interviews). The field pieces were hit and miss and I don't like most of the correspondents except for Laura Grey (Jordan's wife) and Kobi Libii.

However, I am interested in the proposed new show, Klepper, because Jordan's greatest strength was always his field pieces.
 
Instead of cancelling shows, networks should try and shop them around first with streaming deals.

or incases like Dark Matter, The Expanse & Lucifer, where they're made by a seperate production companies (for example Lucifer being made by Warners) the producers should be allowed the shop the show around to another broadcaster or streaming service without interference from the former broadcaster.

TLDR when Fox or SyFy say you're cancelled they lose any rights and say in the show's future.
 
I agree. If a network or service don't want a show you might as well try and make some money off it while rewarding the fans by giving them a chance to have their show continue. I know they might fear that the show they sell will come back and hurt them via competion with the shows they do have but since nobody hardly watches shows when they first air anymore and watch them at any number of random times the idea seems less of a issue in 2018 then it did back in the olden days.

Jason
 
No network that canceled a show stops shows from shopping their canceled shows around, just 99% of the time no one wants it.
 
or incases like Dark Matter, The Expanse & Lucifer, where they're made by a seperate production companies (for example Lucifer being made by Warners) the producers should be allowed the shop the show around to another broadcaster or streaming service without interference from the former broadcaster.

TLDR when Fox or SyFy say you're cancelled they lose any rights and say in the show's future.

In what way were Fox or SyFy impediments (post-cancellations) to those shows moving to another network or streaming channel?
 
Money.

Saving a show, means buying it for a lot of money.

You only buy a dying show if you think that you can generate more money out of it than it costs to acquire, and produce.

Letting a show die costs nothing.

Well, very little.

Letting a show be sold for less than you think it is worth can be embarrassing, if someone spins gold out of your garbage.
 
I'm still not clear on what contractual rights Fox and SyFy had to those shows post-cancellation.

None, I don't get this line of thinking either. Syfy canceled The Expanse because they only owned the rights to first time airing. They didn't own the streaming rights, Amazon and Netflix did. Amazon would have picked it up sooner but there are / were streaming rights issues.

Fox didn't own Lucifer, WB did. Fox wasn't holding up a forth season on a different network / platform, streaming rights were. Same as The Expanse.
 
. I had a harder time warming up to their tech guy though. His delivery when introducing segments could be awkward at times, like he was trying to hard to be cheerful or something and his smile at the end of his delivery ended up being a bit creepy.

Yeah, he definitely was awkward. He came across like a Youtube channel presenter trying to be hip and trendy.
 
Succession has been renewed.

What's Succession?

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Saw episode 3 this morning.

Heavy.

I think it's probably a modern take on king Lear, albeit that it's not three sisters wailing on each other.

I luve Kieren Culkin. :)
 
Hey, take what you can get! That's better than 7 months.

Yes, I'm still bitter about People of Earth. :scream:
I haven't forgiven amazon for Z the beginning of everything.
And still hate the bankers for the crash which was partly responsible for me not getting a stargate Atlantis dvd film.
 
On the subject of cancellations/renewals, there have been times when a foreign show has been sold to international markets, airing for some seasons and then "cancelled" in a market (really more of a scheduling than a full outright production cancellation), but continuing in the country of origin, where technically they could still be available to everyone. Sometimes too when a co-production's status changes, such as when CBS pulled out of Due South, with it continuing in Canada for another 2 seasons.
 
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