Am I the Only One Who Desperately Craves a Captain Shaw Series?

[Cr0sis21]

Id be all for a Shaw series in the Titan, with 7, LaForge, and the other bridge crew. And Dr. Oake as well.

I feel like Shaw is at least as competent, if not more so, than Archer, Freeman (Lower Decks) or Harriman (Ent-B). Not every captain has to be perfect. I prefer them to have flaws, honestly.

 

[Enterprise1701]

I would love a chance for Doctor Ohk to shine properly in contrast to the ridiculous upstaging in her own sickbay by Crusher in episode 3.03.

 

[Cr0sis21]

I would love a chance for Doctor Ohk to shine properly in contrast to the ridiculous upstaging in her own sickbay by Crusher in episode 3.03.

I was thinking it'd be cool if Ohk was a non- joined trill, maybe one with a chip on her shoulder because her sibling is joined, and she either didn't want to be or didn't qualify. Based on what we've seen of her so far, her personality i think would fit with that background.

 

[Jayson1]

I would make her a bad doctor. We have never seen that in Trek. Most of our doctors are great at their job. What if she was just okay. You have internal conflict with her staff and nurses because of it.

 

[Cr0sis21]

I would make her a bad doctor. We have never seen that in Trek. Most of our doctors are great at their job. What if she was just okay. You have internal conflict with her staff and nurses because of it.

I like that. Lower Decks has already tackled the issue, somewhat, from a humorous perspective. But it just makes sense that not everyone in Starfleet is going to be God-mode at their job. And the idea of following a ship where most of the people, including the captain, are bang-on average with a desire to prove themselves has, I think, a lot of potential.

 

[fireproof78]

I would make her a bad doctor. We have never seen that in Trek. Most of our doctors are great at their job. What if she was just okay. You have internal conflict with her staff and nurses because of it.

We don't need Frank Burns in Star Trek.

 

[Sci]

I think I would enjoy a Star Trek: Titan series starring Jeri Ryan, Michelle Hurd, and Todd Stashwick... but I think I would have enjoyed a Star Trek: Stargazer series starring Jeri Ryan, Michelle Hurd, Santiago Cabrera, and Evan Evangora more.

 

[Jayson1]

Maybe if you replaced Evangora with Worf. I still think Shaw though brings more to the table due to the conflict he creates. The guy can be a real asshole at times but make it both funny and infuriating but also tragic sometimes and sad like in the scene were we find out his Wolf 359 backstory.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

Shaw does not appeal to me as a lead.

That he does to so many people is confusing.

I think it's because he's an "everyman " character, like Miles O'Brien. He's not a "dashing", heroic figure like ST captains tend to be. The difference is refreshing. He reminds me of Captain DeSoto of the Hood. "You Galaxy-class boys get all the glory. Me? I just haul my butt back and forth between Starbases...z'

 

[fireproof78]

I think it's because he's an "everyman " character, like Miles O'Brien. He's not a "dashing", heroic figure like ST captains tend to be. The difference is refreshing. He reminds me of Captain DeSoto of the Hood. "You Galaxy-class boys get all the glory. Me? I just haul my butt back and forth between Starbases...z'

Yes, but he is written as a 21st century dude. That's refreshing?

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

Yes, but he is written as a 21st century dude. That's refreshing?

Compared to the stiff, smug, slightly condescending way Trek has written characters since TNG? You bet!

 

[fireproof78]

Compared to the stiff, smug, slightly condescending way Trek has written characters since TNG? You bet!

I thought they were supposed to be evolved?

Fascinating.

 

[Nerys Myk]

We don't need Frank Burns in Star Trek.

What about an alien with a ferret like face?

 

[Cr0sis21]

I thought they were supposed to be evolved?

Fascinating.

DS9, I think, aptly demonstrated that evilved sensibilities don't mean perfection. We're wrong to assume that 400 years of progress means that we won't have any thin left for improvement. You compare, for instance, where we're are today as a species to where we were in 1620 and yes, we are much more evolved and enlightened than we were then. But! In the words of Chancellor Gorkon, "I see we still have a long way to go".

There's nothing wrong with showing that while, yes, we're no longer as privy to racism, bigotry, and the like, we're also not perfect yet.

 

[fireproof78]

What about an alien with a ferret like face?

Well, if it has an alien face it becomes more acceptable.

DS9, I think, aptly demonstrated that evilved sensibilities don't mean perfection. We're wrong to assume that 400 years of progress means that we won't have any thin left for improvement. You compare, for instance, where we're are today as a species to where we were in 1620 and yes, we are much more evolved and enlightened than we were then. But! In the words of Chancellor Gorkon, "I see we still have a long way to go".

There's nothing wrong with showing that while, yes, we're no longer as privy to racism, bigotry, and the like, we're also not perfect yet.

Oh, I don't dispute that. My amusement comes from the fan response to Shaw as opposed to other characters earlier in this same series to characters who presented in a 21st century manner. It's one of those things that amuse me to know end when I discover where fan acceptance of incongruities is welcome. In this case, so long as a character is a likable enough then they can be stylized after a 21st century working man without much issue.

 

[Mr. Laser Beam]

I think I would enjoy a Star Trek: Titan series starring Jeri Ryan, Michelle Hurd, and Todd Stashwick... but I think I would have enjoyed a Star Trek: Stargazer series starring Jeri Ryan, Michelle Hurd, Santiago Cabrera, and Evan Evangora more.

Now that El'nor Rigby has been resurrected I'm sure he's back in Starfleet again. I doubt we'll get a cameo though.

As for Rios, I don't miss him particularly much. I'm not sad he's gone. Although I would have preferred an explanation as to why he was allowed to remain in the past. Perhaps he was always supposed to?

Id be all for a Shaw series in the Titan, with 7, LaForge, and the other bridge crew. And Dr. Oake as well.

I like Ohk. I hope we see more of her this season. I'm guessing she is a joined Trill, based on her name (symbionts tend to have very short names).

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

I thought they were supposed to be evolved?

Fascinating.

And d*mned self-righteous about it, sometimes. DS9 was a little better, because they at least were self-reflective enough to be aware of it "It's easy to be a saint in Paradise..." and all that. Which made DS9 a better show. It was good to see all the neat, rounded edges of "evolved" humanity scuffed up a bit.

 

[fireproof78]

And d*mned self-righteous about it, sometimes. DS9 was a little better, because they at least were self-reflective enough to be aware of it "It's easy to be a saint in Paradise..." and all that. Which made DS9 a better show. It was good to see all the neat, rounded edges of "evolved" humanity scuffed up a bit.

I agree. But Shaw is written, by the actor's admission, as a 21st century human. That's not scuffed up; that's veering a different direction. IN the past this would be frowned upon...

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

What about an alien with a ferret like face?

Well, if it has an alien face it becomes more acceptable.

Anticans.

Oh, I don't dispute that. My amusement comes from the fan response to Shaw as opposed to other characters earlier in this same series to characters who presented in a 21st century manner. It's one of those things that amuse me to know end when I discover where fan acceptance of incongruities is welcome. In this case, so long as a character is a likable enough then they can be stylized after a 21st century working man without much issue.

A lot can come down to actor. The one playing Rios just made me shrug. The one playing Shaw does it with an almost trollish glee sometimes that just makes me smile for some reason.

 

[IRW Bloodwing]

I agree. But Shaw is written, by the actor's admission, as a 21st century human. That's not scuffed up; that's veering a different direction. IN the past this would be frowned upon...

Which is why the Roddenberry/Berman rules need to be taken more as guidelines than hard and fast mandates.