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Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread
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Well, where live-action shows are concerned, 2019 only had one, 2020 only had one, 2021 had nothing unless you count the first episode of BOBF...
I don't entirely mind the reduction as long as it means that they've finally gotten their film division in order and that one season of TV per year is supplemented by a more regular release of movies again. (Not one movie per year like Iger originally wanted, but one every two or three would be fine.)
This is very disappointing news, regardless of the IP and whether here or in a galaxy far far away, marvelous or otherwise.
Streaming services need a steady flow of new content, yet the make less (content and episodes), while simultaneously rising prices.
There was a time when a season mostly had 20+ episodes, that then became 18-20, then 13 and a now it's often 6-8 and only if we are really lucky 10...
Having 1 new episode a week for the whole year of some kind of Star Trek series will probably be the peak for a long time and likely isn't feasible in the long term, but there's got to be some middle ground that is possible.
I get that productions are expensive and costs have risen, but where and on what the heck did they use most of the rumored $20+ million dollars per episode go on the Acolyte for example?!
Building out sets and props, only to trash most of it within a few episodes also seems wasteful AF. They are certainly not leaving those things standing up for a long time afterwards. These things could be reused or at least repurposed if there was at least a second production.
Also with just a single season of something per year - SOL if the individual or the audience at large don't like it for whatever reason. all eggs in one basket doesn't seems smart.
Anyway is there an good overview what's actually has been produced or is in production (and not just announced) by the house of the mouse at least Star Wars wise?
Streaming services need a steady flow of new content, yet the make less (content and episodes), while simultaneously rising prices.
There was a time when a season mostly had 20+ episodes, that then became 18-20, then 13 and a now it's often 6-8 and only if we are really lucky 10...
Having 1 new episode a week for the whole year of some kind of Star Trek series will probably be the peak for a long time and likely isn't feasible in the long term, but there's got to be some middle ground that is possible.
I get that productions are expensive and costs have risen, but where and on what the heck did they use most of the rumored $20+ million dollars per episode go on the Acolyte for example?!
Building out sets and props, only to trash most of it within a few episodes also seems wasteful AF. They are certainly not leaving those things standing up for a long time afterwards. These things could be reused or at least repurposed if there was at least a second production.
Also with just a single season of something per year - SOL if the individual or the audience at large don't like it for whatever reason. all eggs in one basket doesn't seems smart.
Anyway is there an good overview what's actually has been produced or is in production (and not just announced) by the house of the mouse at least Star Wars wise?
Skeleton Crew comes out in December. Andor's second season likely during 2025. Ahsoka season two will start filming in 2025. I image there will be announcements at Celebration in Japan next year.
There are a handful of films in the works, with I believe The Mandalorian and Grogu set for 2026. We have not heard about a new animation project form the group that normally did Rebels, Clone Wars, Tale of the Jedi stuff.
There are a handful of films in the works, with I believe The Mandalorian and Grogu set for 2026. We have not heard about a new animation project form the group that normally did Rebels, Clone Wars, Tale of the Jedi stuff.
But didn't this seem like an inevitability to anyone else? And it's not just with Star Wars, just remember how all this started. With multiple streaming services scrambling for customers and approving far too much content to maintain strict quality control in the process. Then, as the fates have a wicked sense of humor, throw in a pandemic and multiple strikes on top of it.
It's not just Star Wars. We're seeing a drastic cut back in Marvel content as well. Over at Paramount Plus, we're seeing a drastic cut in Star Trek material.
That "churn 'em out" assembly line way of thought is not only what brought us stuff like The Acolyte, but Marvel's Secret Invasion and Star Trek Picard. I mean, as a fanboy I was excited as hell to hear of this glut of content being announced, but the rational part of my mind realized that this was a bubble that was bound to pop sooner rather than later, with quality being the first victim of the process.
It's not just Star Wars. We're seeing a drastic cut back in Marvel content as well. Over at Paramount Plus, we're seeing a drastic cut in Star Trek material.
That "churn 'em out" assembly line way of thought is not only what brought us stuff like The Acolyte, but Marvel's Secret Invasion and Star Trek Picard. I mean, as a fanboy I was excited as hell to hear of this glut of content being announced, but the rational part of my mind realized that this was a bubble that was bound to pop sooner rather than later, with quality being the first victim of the process.
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Disappointing if unsurprising, especially on the heels of Marvel doing the same.
I largely agree with that sentiment, but I also really enjoyed The Acolyte (but I'm willing to admit it had its flaws) and almost all of Picard (season two had its rough spots but overall, still enjoyable).
But I think we all agree Secret Invasion was a dumpster fire.
The problem is that streaming services are approaching premium series as "mini movies".
A 2-3 year gap between movies is quite normal, all we're doing is fleshing out the movie into 6 or 8 parts, then 2 years, then another movie, etc.
Also the strikes last summer did no one any favors and we will probably see fallout for at least another year.
What I think should be done, is schedule two seasons a year of 8-12 episodes. Aim for $6-$8 million per episode, focus on engaging stories and relatable characters, use more Volume and standing sets.
I absolutely love Andor and it certainly belongs in the "premium tv" category. But we also want more content not everything needs to be a blockbuster (like TBB which i'm halfway through S3)
A 2-3 year gap between movies is quite normal, all we're doing is fleshing out the movie into 6 or 8 parts, then 2 years, then another movie, etc.
Also the strikes last summer did no one any favors and we will probably see fallout for at least another year.
What I think should be done, is schedule two seasons a year of 8-12 episodes. Aim for $6-$8 million per episode, focus on engaging stories and relatable characters, use more Volume and standing sets.
I absolutely love Andor and it certainly belongs in the "premium tv" category. But we also want more content not everything needs to be a blockbuster (like TBB which i'm halfway through S3)
Not necessarily. Attack of the Clones famously used digital recreation of the Council set because those sets were destroyed after TPM.
Nope. Added more costs, and all streaming producers are experiencing losses, as well as losses across the board financially. Inflation is looming large for many consumers, and media is a luxury item so it will be the first to go if budget requires it.
People ignore economic problems at their peril.
Ok, to clarify the strikes helped the workers tremendously. I meant in terms of content production it slowed things down, easily adding a year to production schedules and canceling others.
I was agreeing with you. The Nope, it didn't do anyone any favors.
It added to costs, delayed productions, and changed schedules. This on top of multiple other challenges, especially costs. Again, what needs to be repeatedly stressed, is that studios are going through a reduction in production to save money. Disney is doing it, Paramount is doing it, and it's not going to get better.
It's not like Disney is swimming in boatloads of cash...oh wait. Corporate profits at an all time high and streamers are getting shittier by the day.
Well, they cut and readjusted streaming and such and remove 3% of their workforce so clearly it wasn't enough: https://www.cnbc.com/2023/02/08/dis...SPN.?msockid=3928e33cbb8f61cb1cc7f204ba3c60c3
Whatever the story is, they are not going to keep throwing money at streaming when they saw losses in the same way as before.
I was going to be charitable and call it a confused mess.
It was a dumpster fire made up of other dumpsters that are on fire.
Only that show could have gotten Samuel L. Jackson, Emilia Clarke and Ben Mendelsohn under the same banner and found a way to make them all boring.
I hate them cutting back on content. Besides the fact that Disney+ had a problem when it comes to producing enough new content anyway, less Star Wars and less Marvel really take a lot of the value away from the service. Whats the point if they aren't doing multiple original shows a year with their two biggest general audience properties? They seem to want to position themselves as a worse value then Max, which is fairly impressive seeing as Max have pulled half of their non reality show content off their service to license out to free streamers like Tubi.
So now we're basically only going to get SW on Filoni's schedule, since he's the only one making projects that are actually filming (I'll believe in the existence of the announced Daisy Ridley starring film when its out in theaters and not a second before). Between that and the spin off materials being released at about 25% of the volume of the stuff released between ROTJ and Episode 1, we're going to be in the biggest Star Wars content drought since the franchise was created (although I'm sure they'll still release a thousand pre schooler cartoons and elementary school age books, which is the main thing SW produces at the moment).
So now we're basically only going to get SW on Filoni's schedule, since he's the only one making projects that are actually filming (I'll believe in the existence of the announced Daisy Ridley starring film when its out in theaters and not a second before). Between that and the spin off materials being released at about 25% of the volume of the stuff released between ROTJ and Episode 1, we're going to be in the biggest Star Wars content drought since the franchise was created (although I'm sure they'll still release a thousand pre schooler cartoons and elementary school age books, which is the main thing SW produces at the moment).