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Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread

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None of the Star Wars stuff coming out in 2024 have dates yet.
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With us now getting R and TV-MA rated MCU production, do you think there's any chance we'll ever get TV-MA or R rated Star Wars? I know Star War is primarily thought of as PG or PG-13/TV-14 kind of franchise, but I would have said the same thing about the core MCU too before Echo and Deadpool 3.
I know the Netflix shows were all TV-MA, but those had been kind of off in their own little corner and weren't connected to the rest of the franchise the way Echo is.
 
With us now getting R and TV-MA rated MCU production, do you think there's any chance we'll ever get TV-MA or R rated Star Wars? I know Star War is primarily thought of as PG or PG-13/TV-14 kind of franchise, but I would have said the same thing about the core MCU too before Echo and Deadpool 3.
I know the Netflix shows were all TV-MA, but those had been kind of off in their own little corner and weren't connected to the rest of the franchise the way Echo is.
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Zack Snyder will be really mad if they do!
 
With us now getting R and TV-MA rated MCU production, do you think there's any chance we'll ever get TV-MA or R rated Star Wars? I know Star War is primarily thought of as PG or PG-13/TV-14 kind of franchise, but I would have said the same thing about the core MCU too before Echo and Deadpool 3.
I know the Netflix shows were all TV-MA, but those had been kind of off in their own little corner and weren't connected to the rest of the franchise the way Echo is.
It's not impossible, but I don't see LF being any hurry to cross that line. 'Andor' is likely as close as they're going to get anytime soon, and I'm fine with that.

Personally I think 'Star Wars' looses something when it strays a little too far from the fantasy fairytail of it all. The EU repeatedly tried to make the franchise more "edgy" and it never worked very well; the Vong, the whole Legacy thing, basically anything focusing on the clones or Mandos (pre-TCW). Mostly it just came off as shallow and puerile.
It's fine for Star Wars to use different tones and emphasis certain genre influences over others, but I feel going full on mature is anathema to what and who it's supposed to be for.
 
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Personally I think 'Star Wars' looses something when it strays a little too far from the fantasy fairytail of it all. The EU repeatedly tried to make the franchise more "edgy" and it never worked very well; the Vong, the whole Legacy thing, basically anything focusing on the clones or Mandos (pre-TCW). Mostly it just came off as shallow and puerile.
It's fine for Star Wars to use different tones and emphasis certain genre influences over others, but I feel going full on mature in anathema to what and who it's supposed to be for.
Agreed. It doesn't work very well, and even when ROTS pushed for PG-13 it took it to a level that I felt was right at the line but not to go further.

Andor, similarly, pushed closer to that line, but it started to lose that fantasy appeal at times. It feels like it could easily be in our world in terms of pushing against a tyrannical government. It gets too close and then that magic is gone.

It's why Ahsoka appeals more to me than Andor in terms of characters. The characters are good, but I like the magic.
 
I think 'Andor' did a fine job of balancing it's tone. Yes, the political intrigue dial got cranked all the way up to 10 while the "Flash Gordon serial pulp" dial got turned down to about a 3, but to me it still felt like Star Wars. There were still the weird little quirky things like Bee, Vetch, the fishermen brothers, Niamos, that little alien bloke at the dispatch office, etc.

Compare that to 'Ahsoka' which had the pulp at about an 8, the politics down to like 5 and the "Kurosawa" & "Tolkien" dials at a 10. Or 'Mando' that has the politics all the way down to a 3, with the pulp and "John Ford/Sergio Leone Western" dial at about a 9. For 'The Acolyte' I fully expect it to have the 'noir' and 'Jedi martial arts' cranked all the way up.

It's all still Star Wars to me, just with different aspects and influences emphasised over others. But there's no "adults only" dial for Star Wars and there shouldn't be. It always just pulls all the joy out of it whenever anyone tries, and Star Wars without the joy it just a repulsive notion.
 
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It feels like it could easily be in our world in terms of pushing against a tyrannical government.
Of course, SW has always done that on some level. The original SW was reflective of the Nixon/Vietnam era. And let's just say that TCW season 7 was a bit, er, conveniently timed, as it turned out. And there was the whole thing about liberty dying to thunderous applause... not that anything like that actually happened in the real world. :shifty:
 
Of course, SW has always done that on some level. The original SW was reflective of the Nixon/Vietnam era. And let's just say that TCW season 7 was a bit, er, conveniently timed, as it turned out. And there was the whole thing about liberty dying to thunderous applause... not that anything like that actually happened in the real world. :shifty:
Of course.

Andor was more explicit.
 
Yeah, Ahsoka is a completely different genre from Andor. They're not comparable.
I wouldn't go that far. The tone of "Part Two: Toil and Trouble" of Ahsoka meshes very well with the tone of Andor, in much the same way "Chapter 19: The Convert" of The Mandalorian does. All three are treating the same subject matter of how the New Republic is integrating former Imperials with consistent tone. Make that, just the two set post ROTJ, but somehow for some reason they remind me of Andor. :lol:

Star Wars (1977) and The Empire Strikes Back (aka EpIV and EpV) differ quite a bit in tone; it's like two different movements of the same symphony.

That's the type of thing I see here in Ahsoka/Mando/Andor overall. It's like different songs on the same album, hardly different genres.
 
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All three are treating the same subject matter of how the New Republic is integrating former Imperials with consistent tone.
Not Andor, which takes place during the Imperial era when there is no New Republic.
 
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