Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread
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I believe some are supposed go have face plates, at least the figures sort of did.
Also, how do X Wing pilots eject?
Sadly, Porkins never got to show us.
I think you're getting off topic. Stay on target....
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Through the canopy in an ejection seat presumably?I believe some are supposed go have face plates, at least the figures sort of did.
Also, how do X Wing pilots eject?
That line makes more sense when you see that the prototype for the rebel flight helmet was going to have a respirator mask, and the visor was meant to come down all the way to meet it (it's why it just awkwardly angles back and sits on the bridge of their noses in the movie.) Much more viable as a space environment suit (for a space fantasy anyway; this was never hard sci-fi.)
Reports vary as to why they ditched it, from "It covered the actors' faces too much" to "they ran out of time/money to fabricate the things") The former seems the most likely to me. Either way you can see that even in the final production props, the visors can still slide down all the way. Indeed, you can even see on the mask where the flightsuit hose from the chest piece was supposed to plug up into it from underneath, instead of just plugged into the suit itself, serving no obvious purpose at all.
Yeah I know some ancillary material goes on about micro-atmospherc shield generators or some-such. Personally I choose to head canon that the mask is stored on one of the equipment pouches and only gets pulled out and attached to the hose (the suit plug just being a place to stow it in easy reach) before locking the visor down.
Why not fly like that the whole time? Good question; they probably should. Maybe this is all cobbled together from old mis-matched gear components, and something about the mask fucks with the helmet comlink. Or the ejection system on the T-65 wasn't designed with a ship to suit O2 line in mind, or the lines they do have don't mate well and are too finicky to be worth a retrofit., so a pilot can only carry enough O2 for emergency use, and once the mask is engaged the valve locks open as a safety measure, so that can't wear it until absolutely necessary. It's all just make-do and mend.
Well that depends on what one terms "rumours". Mostly it's just people repeating what someone else made up anyway. As I said elsewhere though; I think if they even have a replacement show planned (no guarantee they do) we'll likely hear about it come May.
And again; I wouldn't be shocked if they're going to switch to more limited series/animated streaming movies than any particular ongoing show . . . and if it is an ongoing show, it could be pretty much anything, but the more likely candidates are either a post RotJ OT cast show, a more grown-up than YJA High Republic show, an OLD Republic show (my preference) or something set during the OT (so post Rebels.) Hard to see them doing any kind of direct continuation . . . unless they want to revisit 'Resistance' and do something post-tRoS as a lead up to Rey's NJO movie that doesn't have to go anywhere near anything Jedi related.
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The simplest solution is that they’re like the Starfuries in Babylon 5 and the entire cockpit is one contained unit that can blast itself away from the rest of the fighter. It works with the idea that the flight suits can be converted for full coverage if the pilot still needs to go outside, but it doesn’t require a lot of fiddling around when your ship is about to explode and there’s nothing that can be done to stop it.
That would be my guess.
I meant from more trustworthy sources. As for your guesses, I like the idea of a High Republic era show, I really like what we've gotten from the books & comics set in that era. Between the books/comics, YJA, and Eclipse, and The Acolyte, it looks like that eras going to be getting a fair amount of attention now.
Not impossible, and we have seen smaller craft with break-away escape vehicles before . . . but not quite *that* small. The closest analogy we've seen in the T-6's ejection system which is a seat equipped with some kind of inflatable ball thing . . . and low an behold; they put on stored respirator masks right before starting the ejection system!
Anyway, I'm mostly talking in terms of authorial intent, not what's been made-up after the fact, and I don't recall any indication of such a pod on the crosssection art produced for the movie (which i can't seem to lay my hands on just now.)
I did remember after I posted that that the video game Rebel Assault II showed the B-Wing's cockpit ejecting as an escape pod, as well (9:00 in if the link doesn't jump you there). Still a bit bigger that an X-Wing's tub, and with a more obvious separation line, but I think the cockpit-as-pod makes the most sense.
I don't remember seeing any cross-sections of the ships being made during the production of ANH, but ones from after-the-fact reminded me, the pilot sits with their legs straight out with no room to tuck them in while still seated, so a conventional ejection seat may well cost them everything below their hips. It does seem a little odd that the ship doesn't seem obviously compatible with the concept of "ejection" when it's explicitly mentioned in the script. You'd think that'd put including affordances for it in the designers' minds, even if we weren't actually going to see it happen in the story and it didn't necessarily need to be explicitly on the model the way, say, the torpedo tubes or targeting computer were.
I don't remember seeing any cross-sections of the ships being made during the production of ANH, but ones from after-the-fact reminded me, the pilot sits with their legs straight out with no room to tuck them in while still seated, so a conventional ejection seat may well cost them everything below their hips. It does seem a little odd that the ship doesn't seem obviously compatible with the concept of "ejection" when it's explicitly mentioned in the script. You'd think that'd put including affordances for it in the designers' minds, even if we weren't actually going to see it happen in the story and it didn't necessarily need to be explicitly on the model the way, say, the torpedo tubes or targeting computer were.
I know in the TIE Fighter game the game over screen would sometimes show you being picked up by a Lambda shuttle, implying the TIE Suit at least can survive in vacuum for a while.
I can't remember of the X-Wing game had a similar cutscene.
Edit: Found it, yeah really doesn't show anything, just the pilot floating in space
I can't remember of the X-Wing game had a similar cutscene.
Edit: Found it, yeah really doesn't show anything, just the pilot floating in space
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I want to say i recall a cut scene, but I might be wrong, of the pilot character being retrieved in a pod but I might be misremembering.
As least with the B-Wing is makes sense: much larger craft, the cockpit is already a discreet module, and it's offset from the from the volatile parts of the ship (to say nothing of the centre of mass) that it could actually look like it has a good chance of getting clear.
Yeah there were a few done; for the X-Wing, the TIE, & the ISD. IIRC.
Can't put my hands on a high-res scan of the X-Wing diagram just now (I know I've seen one somewhere!), but a copy was printed in the old 90's SW Archive book (and some of the others were in the Rinzler ANH book.)
Note how the cockpit is flanked by the torpedo racks? Not a good place to be putting escape thrusters and explosive separation bolts!
Yeah, @David cgc already posted a link to that, and as I said that's just pure fan invention, and not really helpful for determining authorial intent.
what's the latest on the rel. date of Skeleton Crew?