Spoilers All Things STAR WARS - News, Speculation & Spoilers Thread

[David cgc]

We'll have to wait to see how it ends to be sure, but Andor seems to be doing the one thing I always wished a prequel would do, which is pretend that it was made first. Rogue One seems to be shaping up to be the series finale of Andor, as if you could show both seasons to someone new and end with R1 and it would seem reasonable that that was the last episode (even moreso if you either fan-edited it to split R1 into hour-ish episodes, or combined the arcs in Andor into single movie-length pieces).

I think it was the sequence where Cassian finds out his mother died with the sunset on the beach very blatantly echoing (foreshadowing, rather) him and Jyn on the beach on Scarif, and the resonance between both scenes being about reckoning with the loss of their parents that made me sure that was what was going on.

 

[fireproof78]

I think Andor and Rogue One are great together.

I don't think they work quite as well as perhaps intended with ANH. I don't think they quite got the prequel idea down of "treat it like it came before." It spent a lot more time inlaying ideas from various Star Wars stories than anything else.

I think Andor is great. I think Rogue One does well. I think that it doesn't quite hit that resonance in to ANH.

 

[Reverend]

We'll have to wait to see how it ends to be sure, but Andor seems to be doing the one thing I always wished a prequel would do, which is pretend that it was made first. Rogue One seems to be shaping up to be the series finale of Andor, as if you could show both seasons to someone new and end with R1 and it would seem reasonable that that was the last episode (even moreso if you either fan-edited it to split R1 into hour-ish episodes, or combined the arcs in Andor into single movie-length pieces).

I think it was the sequence where Cassian finds out his mother died with the sunset on the beach very blatantly echoing (foreshadowing, rather) him and Jyn on the beach on Scarif, and the resonance between both scenes being about reckoning with the loss of their parents that made me sure that was what was going on.

I'd think of it at more of an epilogue than a finale.
For the series to work in and of itself it needs how have a conclusion that's all it's own. Plus 'Rogue One' is rather more Jyn's story than Cassian's (and Mon only has a cameo appearance), so unless they do a third season for her backstory too (not happening), it'll be a pretty weird "finale" for 'Andor'.

 

[David cgc]

I'd think of it at more of an epilogue than a finale.
For the series to work in and of itself it needs how have a conclusion that's all it's own. Plus 'Rogue One' is rather more Jyn's story than Cassian's (and Mon only has a cameo appearance), so unless they do a third season for her backstory too (not happening), it'll be a pretty weird "finale" for 'Andor'.

I can see how it can work, if you see it as Jyn's story paralleling and retelling Cassian's arc as emphasis and counterpoint for everything that's happened to him over the course of the show. Sort of like all the flashbacks in the Battlestar Galactica finale, or introducing Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character in The Dark Knight Rises.

 

[Reverend]

ETA: Slight update on the KoTOR Remake situation for anyone keeping tabs; Sony have said that they delisted the trailer because the music licence expired. A curious claim given the music in said trailer was all Star Wars themes, seemingly in an arrangement commissioned specifically for the game since it's not sourced directly from any score I recognise. Why would proprietary music for an upcoming game expire at all? It's not like this is some third party needle drop. Also, this doesn't explain why they deleted the announcement tweet. I smell PR bantha poodoo.

I can see how it can work, if you see it as Jyn's story paralleling and retelling Cassian's arc as emphasis and counterpoint for everything that's happened to him over the course of the show. Sort of like all the flashbacks in the Battlestar Galactica finale, or introducing Joseph Gordon-Levitt's character in The Dark Knight Rises.

Thematically sure, but taken as a whole there's already vastly more material focused on Cassian than Jyn ever got. So the idea that the movie could serve as a finale just doesn't track, hence: epilogue.

I mean can you imagine the finale of any show randomly introducing a new protagonist that essentially side-lines the main character in the last episode of his own show? Oh and to top it off, she's the adopted daughter of a recurring character AND the key behind the overarching plot Death Star plot that's been simmering in the background? That would be some crazy bullshit stunt for any writer to pull!

 

[Turtletrekker]

Mandalorian and Ahsoka costume designer Shawna Trpcic has passed away at 56.

https://comicbook.com/starwars/news...aul9OV9hY-czbnekviQ8idaX1ytL_P95jeOPE3GTKbdAo

 

[fireproof78]

Mandalorian and Ahsoka costume designer Shawna Trpcic has passed away at 56.

https://comicbook.com/starwars/news...aul9OV9hY-czbnekviQ8idaX1ytL_P95jeOPE3GTKbdAo

Too young.

 

[Reverend]

There's a tribute up on the official site too.

If there's one thing I've been consistently impressed by with the live action Star Wars shows, it's the execution of the costumes. It's clear that Shawna and the rest of the team genuinely love working on this, as nothing is phoned in, and I'm not just talking about the hero costumes but the wardrobe for the background players too, because a lot of work clearly goes into that.
It seems as if Shawna in particular went the extra mile to make them the most authentic and true to Star Wars as humanly possible. Outside of Star Wars it seems she worked on a number of genre shows over the years including the likes of Angel & Firefly among many others. A tragic loss.

 

[Commander Troi]

That sucks.

 

[Mage]

Mandalorian and Ahsoka costume designer Shawna Trpcic has passed away at 56.

https://comicbook.com/starwars/news...aul9OV9hY-czbnekviQ8idaX1ytL_P95jeOPE3GTKbdAo

People often talk about directors and actors when it comes to shows and movies. But it is the combined effort of so many people, including the likes of costume designers, that create the worlds we love so much. It's always sad when someone that brought so much detail and live to current Star Wars passes, especially so young.

 

[Dee1891]

We'll have to wait to see how it ends to be sure, but Andor seems to be doing the one thing I always wished a prequel would do, which is pretend that it was made first.

I don't understand this comment at all. Not by a long shot. If I'm supposed to accept this as a sign that "Andor" is superior to the Prequel movies, well that is one opinion I absolutely refuse to accept. Because I don't think it is. And I regard "Andor" as one of the most overrated Star Wars productions to this date. I don't think it's terrible or anything like it. But I certainly don't regard it as among the best productions of the Star Wars franchise.

 

[JD]

I noticed something kind of fun on Spotify recently, whenever you listen to Star Wars soundtracks, the progress bar turns into a lightsaber, with the blade getting longer as the songs play.

 

[USS Firefly]

ETA: Slight update on the KoTOR Remake situation for anyone keeping tabs; Sony have said that they delisted the trailer because the music licence expired. A curious claim given the music in said trailer was all Star Wars themes, seemingly in an arrangement commissioned specifically for the game since it's not sourced directly from any score I recognise. Why would proprietary music for an upcoming game expire at all? It's not like this is some third party needle drop. Also, this doesn't explain why they deleted the announcement tweet. I smell PR bantha poodoo.

That is very disappointing news

 

[Reverend]

Something interesting to keep an eye on: For the last week or so, Pat Presley has been posting some (so far as I can tell) never before shown pieces of VERY early concept art for 'Rebels' on his Twitter account (no, I flatly refuse to call it that).
Not much so far, just character sketches, but they all seem to be from before they settled on that signature McQuarrie style as the main inspiration. Some of these have a distinctly Miyazaki look to them, which is always fun to see, while others are as he says more of a retro Sci-fi Flash Gordon style, though I also see hints of 70's anime about them. While While I'm glad they went with the Grand Inquisitor design that they did, I still wish we could have gotten a Chagrian in there somewhere. It seems like such an under represented species (I like to head canon that they're descended from a mix of both Twi'lek & Devaronian . . . with possibly a bit of Togruta in there, but that's just me.)

That is very disappointing news

Not surprising though, honestly. That project has been troubled from the get-go. The 'Dark Forces' remaster however, seems to be basically done and on schedule for release!
Not that I'm comparing remaking a 6th generation RPG with upscaling & remastering a mid 90's Doom clone, but it does help that the people behind this one at least seem to know what they're doing!

 

[Set Harth]

(I like to head canon that they're descended from a mix of both Twi'lek & Devaronian . . . with possibly a bit of Togruta in there, but that's just me.)

Thanks for that mental image!

 

[Tuskin38]

Nielson numbers for the live actions shows from mando S2 onward
https://www.reddit.com/r/StarWarsLe...ielsen_viewership_viewership_numbers_for_all/

 

[JD]

I don't know if this deserves it's own thread, but on Dec. 5 a new documentary about The Holiday Special called A Disturbance in the Force: How The Star Wars Holiday Special Happened is coming out on Dec. 5.

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I actually did watch The Holiday Special a while back, and it's definitely a unique experience. I spent the whole time I was watching it in a wondering what the hell they were thinking when they made it. The whole thing was so completely bonkers, and weird, and bad, that I actually kind of enjoyed it.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

That should be an interesting watch. I watched the Special many moons ago and don't remember much about it...although I do recall thinking it wasn't quite as bad as it reputation held it as. Perhaps I should watch it again before watching this documentary.

The trailer implies that it's mostly going to be an outside perspective with lots of celebrities reacting to it and its production history (including the late Gilbert Gottfried ). However, I wonder if Lucas himself talks about it and whether we'll get new commentary on it from Hamil, Ford, Daniels, etc. or just archival footage.

 

[Reverend]

I don't know if this deserves it's own thread, but on Dec. 5 a new documentary about The Holiday Special called A Disturbance in the Force: How The Star Wars Holiday Special Happened is coming out on Dec. 5.

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I actually did watch The Holiday Special a while back, and it's definitely a unique experience. I spent the whole time I was watching it in a wondering what the hell they were thinking when they made it. The whole thing was so completely bonkers, and weird, and bad, that I actually kind of enjoyed it.

I'm morbidly curious to see this, just to get an insight into how it managed to go so far off the rails (besides all the cocaine, obviously.)

That should be an interesting watch. I watched the Special many moons ago and don't remember much about it...although I do recall thinking it wasn't quite as bad as it reputation held it as. Perhaps I should watch it again before watching this documentary.

The trailer implies that it's mostly going to be an outside perspective with lots of celebrities reacting to it and its production history (including the late Gilbert Gottfried ). However, I wonder if Lucas himself talks about it and whether we'll get new commentary on it from Hamil, Ford, Daniels, etc. or just archival footage.

Lucas has made his disinterest in discussing the topic, or even acknowledging it's existence pretty clear over the years, and I'd be surprised if that's changed at all.

Personally, I've never been able to sit though the whole thing. I'm not wired to hate-watch, enjoy "the cringe", or been able to engage with things as "so bad it's good". Good's good. Bad's bad. This thing is awful and just watching it for 5 mins makes me want to go and do literally anything else. The cartoon is the only watchable part, and even that's not all that good.
I honestly liked it better when it was just a mysterious set of photos and a short article in the first (and only) issue of Star Wars Insider I got off the stands back in the 90's.

 

[Reverend]

Been a bit out of the loop this last week, so only just caught this;
Daisy Ridley had an interview with Collider recently while promoting her next movie coming out on digital ('The Marsh King’s Daughter', if anyone is interested, but it doesn't look any good) and answered a few questions about the upcoming New Jedi Order Movie.

Nothing much to talk about despite the site trying to make a few small mountains out of some rather unassuming mole hills. The meat of it is simply this: she was approached relatively recently (and unexpectedly for her) sometime after the Park City Film Festival in January (and before Celebration in May, obviously.) She hasn't seen a script yet, but she's been told the storyline. So far as she's aware, it's just one movie for now at least, and it's probably the next one in the pipeline getting made. She says she's excited and that she thinks people will be excited when they know what it's about (but in fairness, she has to say that either way, so I'm hardly going to hold her to it.)