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I seem to vaguely remember reading where someone posted that in one of the books (and yes I know they aren't considered official cannon) that someone actually did salvage the Enterprise D saucer section.
Maybe they did salvage it, got a new star drive section, was refitted, and Riker used it as his personal flagship. I don't see why there can't be an Enterprise D and E in comission at the same time with the D being used to a lesser degree and the E taking over as the Federation flagship.
Maybe they did salvage it, got a new star drive section, was refitted, and Riker used it as his personal flagship. I don't see why there can't be an Enterprise D and E in comission at the same time with the D being used to a lesser degree and the E taking over as the Federation flagship.
Aside from the confusion?
They can also bring back the ENT-A as well while they're at it.
Well if the Ent-E is the Federation flagship and the Ent-D is only used when Riker wishes and isn't in full service..
...And promptly inserted it in ours. 
Only they flew that into a sun.
And that didn't just happen in the books either. For some reason Chekov took "Second Star to the right...and straight on 'till morning" to indicate that he should fly INTO the second star to the right. It's on the screen, it's canon.
Because it is a TV series. And it was written before Generations and First Contact.
Additionally, the AGT Enterprise just looks better than the Enterprise-E.
Agreed. The E-D could have been "Refited" for the movies, thus there is no need to destroy her in Generations. Plus, It doesn't make the TNG crew look incompetent.
BTW: Does the re-cycled Star Trek VI BOP being destroyed irk anyone? I mean seeing thtr scene once Star Trek VI, is great but seeing it again in Generation cries that we are recycling film here.
Sure it irks me!
Seriously, though, re-using that explosion shot (in addition to the shots of the Excelsior in warp for the Ent-B in Generations) is nothing new for ST films. The ST films have never ever had the budget of Lucas' SW films and have always recycled. Examples include reusing the drydock scenes from TMP for TWOK. Re-dressing the Enterprise movie bridge first for the Reliant and then, during TNG for various starships. Redressing the TNG sets (which were originally the TMP Enterprise sets) for ST V and ST VI. Using Spacedock scenes from TVH for TFF and TNG episodes...and the list goes on. I sometimes do find it irritating. I think the worst case imo was the blatant reuse of the TNG sets for TFF with very little re-dressing (it seemed like none in a lot of scenes), but that's how it goes. Like Brent Spiner and others have said, Paramount generally knew they'd make around 75-85 million (adjusted for inflation) for every ST film, so that curtailed the production budget accordingly. That's why there was so much recycling.
That's true. In the STTNG Tech manual, I believe it said that the Galaxy class, with periodic upgrades, maintenance, etc., was good for 100 years.
They actually said that on a schematic for the TUC Ent-A bridge (by Howard Zimmerman) I saw at ST:The Experience as well.
SF was probably very upset about the loss of the Ent-D to an antiquated Klingon Bird of Prey in Generations, particularly in the way it happened, due to the compromise of Geordi's Visor, something that happened before. If there's an logic in the ST universe, Riker and possibly Worf and Picard as well, were held responsible for the loss of the Ent-D. That must have been a blemish on their records.
It's actually surprising that Picard got command of the Ent-E so soon after the loss of the D.
That's true.
But the Stargazer wasn't the Federation flagship. It was an old, ST movie-era starship that was disabled as a result of a battle with with a Ferengi ship of equal or greater strength.
The Ent-D was the Federation's flagship with a 100 year lifetime that was destroyed after 7 years by a antique BOP that it vastly outgunnend, all because Riker and/or Worf didn't check Geordi's Visor, especially when it had been compromised before in The Mind's Eye.
And why didn't they just rotate the shield frequencies to keep the Klingon weapon fire out?
The poster who mentioned that GEN made Riker and company look incompetent was right imo. That was a lousy, if spectacular, battle that gave the Ent-D an ignoble end, especially compared to the way the original Enterprise went out.
Yeah, that definitely would've been better.
I wonder if they were constrained by their budget to just use the BOP?
There is a very simple explanation for Warp 13... the Federation finally gave in and went metric!
AGT didn't happen to anyone but Picard. Just like TIL. Whether it was a probe or Q, he was always getting screwed with.
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