I'm over Mack in charge. Sousa for Director. SHIELD needs to return to its roots of spy vs. spy and stop its world dominating schemes, because absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Spoilers Agents of SHIELD- The Final Season Discussion
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I think last week I predicted Simmons was going to be some kind of robot or LMD and those lights sure as heck didn't make me think otherwise. I think both she and Fitz lived out their natural lives and died and had their memories downloaded into robots and lived many more years only they may have had their memories also tampered with in order to not fully understand their robot nature. Which is why she was starting to feel confused without Enoch around to I guess help stabilize her programing or something.
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Well, considering we've had two episodes for each time period, that seems only fair.Ugh, stuck in the 70s for another episode it seems
Oh, right, I forgot about that tidbit. Probably Chronicom tech and related to her unseen time away.
And honestly, my first thought: "Oh, no! Simmons is a Cylon!"
I suspect the glowing lights are some kind of neural implant meant to suppress certain memories (like what's going on with Fitz) in case she gets brain scanned again, only for some reason it's malfunctioning.
I suspect that if she were just a skinjob like Coulson then it wouldn't be an issue since between her, Fitz and Enoch they should have that technology down pat. Cybernetics (which Fitzsimmons have had considerable experience with going back to 'Eye Spy' and the other Deathlok tech) is more complicated and prone to need regular maintenance.
Several times in the episode she's seen rubbing the back of her neck so clearly it's causing some kind of physical discomfort.
I suspect that if she were just a skinjob like Coulson then it wouldn't be an issue since between her, Fitz and Enoch they should have that technology down pat. Cybernetics (which Fitzsimmons have had considerable experience with going back to 'Eye Spy' and the other Deathlok tech) is more complicated and prone to need regular maintenance.
Several times in the episode she's seen rubbing the back of her neck so clearly it's causing some kind of physical discomfort.
The credits sequence was specifically in the style of Quinn Martin Productions, but with the full regular cast list rather than a shorter regular cast list followed by guest stars. QM had been using the same basic template for their credits sequences at least as far back as The Fugitive (1963).
Project Insight's Target List via the MCU wiki, the ones with links have articles on the wiki.
- Ben Taylor
- Andrew Nelson
- Susan Morse
- James Cook
- Isabelle Hartley
- Mark Roberts
- Ronald Collins
- Gabe Jones
- Conrad Murphy
- Bruce Banner
- Victoria Hand
- Ben Harris
- Betty Wright
- Nicoole Amador
- Michael Phillips
- Roger Stewart
- Margaret Nelson
- Leonard Torres
- Jim Morita
- Robert Gonzales
- Thomas Hall
- David Robinson
- Nick Fury
- Peggy Carter
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That was more or less my thought as well, we already have Coulson and Enoch as our resident robots, I can't really see them turning other characters into robots.
Oh, I wasn't being serious in suspecting Simmons was an actual robot. I was just making the obvious dumb joke. 
I've read somewhere that because Simmons activated the EMP pluse at the Area 51 base which deactivated Helius and also knocked out the Chronicoms and LMD Coulson, but as Simmons and Daisy still managed to return to the Zephyr, so Simmons cannot be a robot since she wasn't knocked out by the EMP.
I wonder if Nicoole Amador is any relation to Akela Amador? She's a character I would have loved to have seen again.
https://marvelcinematicuniverse.fandom.com/wiki/Akela_Amador
Damn, I forgot all about her. There were a bunch of characters from the first couple of seasons that I wanted to see again (aside from obviously Deathlok) but got swept away as the seasons and the stories got bigger and bolder.
I loved the Quinn Martin title sequence, although riffing on Mission: Impossible or Man from UNCLE would have been more appropriate. They probably wanted the dramatic voice to sound more 70s.
But all was not fun and games this week, as the mission through time goes increasingly awry. The Cummerbunds have already wrought some serious changes to the timeline which are bound to affect the world of 2020, which makes me wonder how this is all going to work out. Will Team SHIELD have to somehow go back in time again to undo the changes made, or will they end the series in a dramatically altered timeline? And will it be a good timeline or a bad timeline? Maybe the show will give us a really happy ending, with Sousa alive, the real Coulson restored, and maybe even a Ward Bond who was never evil.
Anyway, on the bright side, we've got the return of the long-suffering Enoch as he came to the rescue in his sweet ride (and in classic 70s fashion, he stopped on a dime right in the middle of the rubber marks from his practice runs). And he and Gemma seem to know something that nobody else does-- I'm beginning to think that she was separated from the others for longer than she let on and that she is now either an LMD like Coulson or else a full-fledged Cummerbund. And, more than that, she's hiding something even more extreme regarding Fitz.
I like Sousa's attitude in dealing with the social and technological changes he has to deal with. Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead. Trout, but true.
But the episode did not exactly end in a happy Bicentennial Celebration. Coulson and May are now in custody-- after decking General Magnum and setting bombs. And Mack successfully destroyed the rocket, but the bad guys still have his parents in a cell. Something tells me next week's show will not be all about peace, love, and understanding.
But all was not fun and games this week, as the mission through time goes increasingly awry. The Cummerbunds have already wrought some serious changes to the timeline which are bound to affect the world of 2020, which makes me wonder how this is all going to work out. Will Team SHIELD have to somehow go back in time again to undo the changes made, or will they end the series in a dramatically altered timeline? And will it be a good timeline or a bad timeline? Maybe the show will give us a really happy ending, with Sousa alive, the real Coulson restored, and maybe even a Ward Bond who was never evil.
Anyway, on the bright side, we've got the return of the long-suffering Enoch as he came to the rescue in his sweet ride (and in classic 70s fashion, he stopped on a dime right in the middle of the rubber marks from his practice runs). And he and Gemma seem to know something that nobody else does-- I'm beginning to think that she was separated from the others for longer than she let on and that she is now either an LMD like Coulson or else a full-fledged Cummerbund. And, more than that, she's hiding something even more extreme regarding Fitz.
I like Sousa's attitude in dealing with the social and technological changes he has to deal with. Damn the torpedoes and full speed ahead. Trout, but true.
But the episode did not exactly end in a happy Bicentennial Celebration. Coulson and May are now in custody-- after decking General Magnum and setting bombs. And Mack successfully destroyed the rocket, but the bad guys still have his parents in a cell. Something tells me next week's show will not be all about peace, love, and understanding.
May also has absorbed emotions from Simmons touching her, but gets nothing from LMD-Coulson.
Aw...now I'm wishing that Enoch had left the team instructions on a self-destructing reel-to-reel tape...
In theory, the Chronocrons could have taken out all of the Avengers as children except Cap, but they could have dug him up and killed him then too.
I don't think that list is 100% accurate as I could have sworn I saw a 'Parker' on the list a few down from Hartley. Pretty sure the first name wasn't "Benjamin", but something beginning with an 'S'. It cut away too quick for me to get a good look. Anyone know off the top of their head what Peter Parker's old man was called?
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Yeah, Susan Parker. Peter's parents were named Richard and Mary.
Well, Peter is a millennial so it's possible Richard Parker hasn't been born in '76. Therefore maybe Susan Parker was his grandmother?
Could be just some random name, but it seems odd to just throw a 'Parker' in there alongside names like Banner, Carter and Fury without it meaning to be a reference to Spider-Man.
Maybe they deliberately avoided any established Parkers from the comics to avoid having to clear it through Sony? This was still made under Marvel Entertainment, not Marvel Studios so the rights deal probably didn't cover them.
Side note, there is actually a Marvel character with that name, though I doubt this was the person they had in mind (if any.)
Could be just some random name, but it seems odd to just throw a 'Parker' in there alongside names like Banner, Carter and Fury without it meaning to be a reference to Spider-Man.
Maybe they deliberately avoided any established Parkers from the comics to avoid having to clear it through Sony? This was still made under Marvel Entertainment, not Marvel Studios so the rights deal probably didn't cover them.
Side note, there is actually a Marvel character with that name, though I doubt this was the person they had in mind (if any.)
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