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Agents of SHIELD season 5

On the one hand I'm glad should it come to this on the other, obviously, I really don't want it to come to this.
 
Turtletrekker said:
Jed and Maurissa are writing the season finale in such a way that it can double as a series finale as well.

https://mcuexchange.com/shield-season-5-finale-series-finale/
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Which is something Joss Whedon tended to do on his shows going back to Buffy. His season finales could usually work as series finales in case of non-renewal, wrapping up the main arcs but still leaving room for continuation. I think the main exception in Buffy was the season 4 finale that foreshadowed Dawn's arrival and other things in season 5. And of course the season 5 finale actually was a series finale, until the show got resurrected by another network.

I think it's a smart strategy. It's better than leaving things on a cliffhanger and then getting cancelled. And if you do get renewed anyway, you can just start a new story.
 
I definitely much prefer that over a cliffhanger that never gets resolved.
 
I'm glad they're establishing a contingency plan just in case. Don't want another "Bad Timing" on our hands. Not that I would expect them to end a season in such a fashion, especially if they weren't sure if they were going to be renewed or thought they were promised another season.
 
I like her already,,,

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ETA: Can any one identify the song and band she's listening to?
 
No.
New episode tonight:
All the Comforts of Home
Coulson and team set out to rewrite the course of humanity's fate, but they're unaware that their efforts will dramatically change one S.H.I.E.L.D. agent's life.
 
"We have a small but active fanbase." Heh. (That whole cold open was meta. The general talking about closing this chapter of SHIELD, Mack saying "And we're back.")

I should've guessed -- they're keeping the Lighthouse set as the team's new secret base. It makes sense. Keeping the same standing sets lets the show save money.

I wonder what the deal is with Ruby. The general said she was her daughter, but she was surrounded by robot soldiers and moved in a sort of inhuman way in her masked mode, so I wonder if she's an LMD.
 
Great episode, setting up the rest of the season's big arc with plenty of questions like what the hell is General Hale up to, who else will be on the team with Creel (presumably more super villains), and why is she locking up her daughter in between missions. Assuming, of course Ruby is even her daughter in the first place. I expect Christopher is right that she's probably an LMD.

I like the twist of Yo-Yo losing her arms almost immediately upon returning to the past, as oppose to at the hands of the Kree and their meddling, although that leaves the question of the flashback/forward where we saw Yo-Yo with arms. Prosthetics like Coulson's hand?

I'm thrilled to have Piper back but it's a shame she made a colossal mistake while the team was gone. May won't be terribly forgiving of that.

I loved the long list of suggestions the team provided as examples of how things could be worse, ending with May's "Dancing." :lol:

The one thing I didn't like about the episode: Why the hell do we still have to deal with Deke? It's a fun twist, but ugh, I was never interested in the character and I far preferred Tess. He's not as obnoxious as Lincoln, but he's still annoying.

Seems like a waste to use Patrick Warburton as a holographic recording. Hopefully there's more to General Stoner than that.
 
"An Asgardian spotted in the city"?

Could this be taking place the same time as Thor Ragnarok? If not, could it be Sif?
 
Emh said:
I'm thrilled to have Piper back but it's a shame she made a colossal mistake while the team was gone.
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Yeah. I bet she wishes she hadn't left the DEO and changed her name from Vasquez...

(I'm kidding. Obviously Vasquez and Piper are cross-dimensional doppelgangers of each other.)


Emh said:
Why the hell do we still have to deal with Deke? It's a fun twist, but ugh, I was never interested in the character and I far preferred Tess.
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I kinda did too, but I can see why Tess wouldn't have been as entertaining a character to plop into the 2010s. She was more driven by a cause and a mission, like the SHIELD team, but Deke is a con man who just wants to get by, so he's more likely to get into troublemaking antics and present a contrast to the regulars. If Tess had been the one to show up in the present, she probably would've laid low rather than called attention to herself with a bar binge.


Emh said:
Seems like a waste to use Patrick Warburton as a holographic recording. Hopefully there's more to General Stoner than that.
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Well, projected on walls, which is about as close to "holographic" as the '70s could get. I expect we'll be seeing recordings of Stoner popping up again in future episodes.


Turtletrekker said:
"An Asgardian spotted in the city"?

Could this be taking place the same time as Thor Ragnarok? If not, could it be Sif?
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Noah was referring to notable events that occurred in the team's absence. So it was probably a reference to Ragnarok, but as an event in the recent past, not at that moment.
 
Christopher said:
Yeah. I bet she wishes she hadn't left the DEO and changed her name from Vasquez...

(I'm kidding. Obviously Vasquez and Piper are cross-dimensional doppelgangers of each other.)
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Ah, Supergirl. I had to look that one up but I figured that was what you were going for in general.

Christopher said:
I kinda did too, but I can see why Tess wouldn't have been as entertaining a character to plop into the 2010s. She was more driven by a cause and a mission, like the SHIELD team, but Deke is a con man who just wants to get by, so he's more likely to get into troublemaking antics and present a contrast to the regulars. If Tess had been the one to show up in the present, she probably would've laid low rather than called attention to herself with a bar binge.
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Yeah, I get what they used Deke instead of Tess (hell, I'm fine with how her story ended as is), I'm just tired of Deke like I was tired of Lincon before he became a cast member.

Christopher said:
Well, projected on walls, which is about as close to "holographic" as the '70s could get. I expect we'll be seeing recordings of Stoner popping up again in future episodes.
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Either way, it seems like a waste of Warburton's talent. On the other hand, it's not that far different from what he does on Lemony Snicket (as Snicket) and Warburton is fantastic there, so maybe that's what they're going for here.
 
Emh said:
Ah, Supergirl. I had to look that one up but I figured that was what you were going for in general.
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The joke is, Vasquez and Piper are basically the same character -- a background member of the secret pseudomilitary organization the heroes work for, frequently present but rarely standing out. There was even a time last season where Brianna Venskus reappeared on both shows just two weeks apart after being absent for a while from both, and in both cases it was in an episode where the base was on lockdown because of infiltration by enemy impostors. So I started to get the (non-serious) idea that Vasquez and Piper were cross-universal doubles leading parallel lives, or were perhaps the same pandimensional individual popping between universes, sort of like the role Stan Lee is now assumed to have in the Marvel movies going by his Guardians 2 cameo.

Although I guess we can now say that Piper has diverged significantly from the two characters' parallel courses, unless we get an upcoming Supergirl episode where Vasquez betrays her team for what she thinks are good reasons.
 
This was a good start to the second half of the season.
Ruby was definitely intrguing, and not at all what I was expecting. I was wondering if she's an LMD too.
Deke ending up in the present day was a fun surprise, I loved him hugging the tree.
I was disappointed all from Patrick Warburton was only the recordings.
The Lighthouse becoming their new hideout was a surprise, but I guess from a production point of view it makes sense to keep using the sets.
The stuff with Piper was pretty good too, her betrayal was a surprise, but at least she did rejoin Coulson & Co. once she realized her mistake.
Turtletrekker said:
"An Asgardian spotted in the city"?

Could this be taking place the same time as Thor Ragnarok? If not, could it be Sif?
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I was wondering about that too, that definitely felt like it could have been a set up for Sif or someone to pop up later, or at least explain them surviving Ragnarok.
 
Interesting start to the back portion of the season. Yo-Yo finally becomes comics accurate.

Still not sure on the General or her "daughter". Could both be Kree. I'll be honest, I pegged the assassin for the blonde girl almost immediately, just from the masked costume. Though, speaking of the costume, the moment I saw her my mind went straight to Oubliette the Exterminatrix. Not really sure why, they don't have anything in common beyond the mask and an overbearing parent.

Deke is even more annoying now that he's come back through time. Hopefully they find something to do with the character that can give him some purpose. Not going to be at all surprised if he's integral to breaking the time loop somehow.

And Agent May wins for the best line this week. "Dancing" indeed.
 
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