Agents of Shield - Season 4

[Reverend]

Can we just wind this little exchange back to the point where the whole premise of it is that the new director being a shape-shifter is the only way to link him to a person in a photograph he otherwise has nothing to do with? Yeah, that couldn't be any more flimsy if it was made out of wet loo roll and toothpicks.

As for what Inhumans can and can't become: apparently there were no known (to Jiaying) clairvoyants before Raina. There are no rules. It's all just made up.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Why are we treating Lincoln as if he had perfect unprejudiced knowledge passed down for centuries through a loose knit community?

In this context, the team treated him as an expert since that was their understanding of Lash going forward.

 

[kitik]

Aw darnit, I was looking forward to a new episode tonight.

 

[Timelord79 (he/him)]

Aw darnit, I was looking forward to a new episode tonight.

Did they already have a break this week? Was wondering why itunes didn't upload anything

 

[Star Wolf]

The Vice Presidential debate took precedence. Only one NCIS hours and the CW network had new content

 

[nx1701g]

/\ At least next week looks really good.

 

[JD]

Jeph Loeb's latest response when asked about AOS crossing over with the Netflix shows, "Stay tuned". He goes to a bit more detail in other interviews, but it does sound like there might be a bit of movement on the crossover front.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Maybe, but Jeph Loeb is also very good at giving the same answer regardless of what the facts are. It's useful because you don't want someone to give a non-response for yes but a no response for no (since that would make things obvious), but it's gotten to the point I don't place much weight on his answers.

 

[JD]

I thought most of his answers had pretty much been that it wasn't happening, so this seemed like a step in the right direction to me.

 

[Reverend]

It really wouldn't take much on AoS's part. Like a single line of dialogue in passing. Something to the effect of "Agent <insert name here> is still tied up with that very public mess in Harlem" or "And just as soon as we deal with this, the President has insisted I personally brief him on the Luke Cage situation."

Of course something more substantial would be great, but that's pretty much all they'd need to do.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

They've already had small tie-ins. The motorcycle gang in season one of AoS was in DD Season 2.

 

[Turtletrekker]

There was also a mention of gang activity in Hell's Kitchen on a ticker tape news feed.

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

Isn't this more of an issue between Netflix and NBC rather than the shows themselves?

 

[Reverend]

They've already had small tie-ins. The motorcycle gang in season one of AoS was in DD Season 2.

There was also a mention of gang activity in Hell's Kitchen on a ticker tape news feed.

Those kinds of details are fairly incidental and generally only spotted by those who are *really* paying attention...or who read wiki pages. It's a long way from addressing or even mentioning the salient events of any of the Netflix shows.

 

[Alidar Jarok]

Right. My point is a line in passing is the same way.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Isn't this more of an issue between Netflix and NBC rather than the shows themselves?

SHIELD is on ABC.

 

[Kahless the Unforgettable]

SHIELD is on ABC.

I can never keep the network stations separate. XD Thanks for correcting me though.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I can never keep the network stations separate. XD Thanks for correcting me though.

No problem. When it comes to the broadcast networks I just have to remember ABC is the Disney Network.

 

[Silvercrest]

Between this, 'Dr.Strange', some elements of 'Daredevil' and pretty soon 'Iron Fist', I'm interested to see where they go with this and if they're going all-in with the supernatural stuff, or if it'll turn out to be just another flavour of super-advanced reality bending technology. Mind you, at that level the whole "indistinguishable from magic" thing becomes more and more literal so it's possibly a meaningless distinction.

Inhuman superpowers are the result of extremely advanced technology. Nothing about it is supernatural in the way Dr. Strange or Ghost Rider are. But it might as well be due to just how advanced it is. Try as you might, but you can't rationalize away a normal human being able to fly, create earthquakes, turn into living flame, discharge lightning, or any of the other amazing powers Inhumans have. So why, then, do you have to be able to rationalize how the mist is able to grant powers that are 'needed' by the Inhumans? How is that more supernatural than clairvoyance, teleport, create illusions, super speed, or any of the other countless powers Inhumans have?

I coined a phrase for my D&D/Stargate mashup RPG a while back: "If sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic, then sometimes it's okay to throw in some actual magic." I'm not sure that's quite what they're doing here, but it looks like it.

 

[sojourner]

Any sufficiently explained magic is indistinguishable from science.