Agents of Shield - Season 4
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Wouldn't surprise me. As soon as the ghosts kept saying "he" instead of a name as the source of their problems, I suspected they were talking about Mace.
I just had a quick look and I don't see it. There is a tall smiley faced dark haired bloke standing at the back, but it doesn't look like the same guy.
Also it'd be a bit of a stretch if the new director had history with something Daisy just happened to stumble on in LA. That would feel massively contrived.
Also it'd be a bit of a stretch if the new director had history with something Daisy just happened to stumble on in LA. That would feel massively contrived.
That could be what he looked like before Terragenesis.
So you're saying the terragen gave him super strength AND a different but otherwise entirely human looking face? That seems very unlikely.
I mean if it turned him into David Hasslehoff it'd count as a superpower in and of itself, but Jason O'Mara? I don't think so.
It was fun dialogue that shows he was causing a misdirection from the "what did you do last night" claim. That was absolutely plot relevant and added more than this possibly cryptic car reference in a show that has made far more explicit car references that would suffice.
YesSo you're saying the terragen gave him super strength AND a different but otherwise entirely human looking face? That seems very unlikely.
I mean if it turned him into David Hasslehoff it'd count as a superpower in and of itself, but Jason O'Mara? I don't think so.
Not at all. It is the writers using a previously unknown aspect of a character's life to tell more about who the character is. Writers do this all the time. When the Raiders were in L.A., presumably when Robbie became a fan, they were known as badasses. It was in their DNA back then. It was the reason Raiders gear was the choice of so many L.A. based (and others) rappers.
Robbie Reyes is a badass. Like his co-workers, he is an NFL fan, but rather than a Rams (who have NEVER been known as badasses) fan, being who he is, he is a Raiders' fan. Not only does it make sense, it gives us a bit of insight into the continuity in his personality. And it gives us that info in a kind of a fun and round about way. There obviously is more to Robbie's life than a flaming skull and his car.
Cryptic? Watch the scene again. Immediately after the exchange in question, what does the camera do? It focuses and lingers on the car. Specifically the very chromed silver and black car. There really isn't anything cryptic about it. But you're right, Robbie is deflecting the question. Because he wasn't out with a girl like his coworkers imply, he was out using his supernatural flaming skull powers to torment the wicked. In his very silver and black car.
I feel like this was a no brainer, but there's no point going in circles over it. The things we'll argue about in these threads amaze me sometimes, when it's just not worth it. I'll leave the rest of you to it.
I thought, and continue to think, it was a no brainer as well, Tell you what, there aren't likely to be any more football discussions on the show this season, but we know the car will be around for the duration. So we'll see if there is another mention of "silver and black" and if it will be in reference to the car. If you're right about that term being a nickname for the car, then it seems to me we should hear it again. We shall see.
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Maybe he's also a shapeshifter?So you're saying the terragen gave him super strength AND a different but otherwise entirely human looking face? That seems very unlikely.
I mean if it turned him into David Hasslehoff it'd count as a superpower in and of itself, but Jason O'Mara? I don't think so.
^ Didn't Lincoln say last season that there are no shapeshifting Inhumans?
Shapeshifting usually refers to characters like Chameleon Boy, Mystique and J'Onn J'Onzz. Stretching types like Plastic Man, Elongated Man or Mister Fantastic can also fall in the category. Jekyll and Hyde types, like Hulk or Lash aren't usually classified as such. Size changers like Hank Pym and the Atom aren't usually in the shapeshifter group either
Still, to say with conviction that there aren't any shape shifters just doesn't make sense. Since these things appear somewhat random in the first place, why wouldn't it come up? The genes/ability clearly exist and have happened, as Andrew/Lash demonstrated, so not a shock to imagine that it could be out there without the Hyde portion of the personality disorder. Inhumans have been around a thousand years or more, no?
Not sure why someone like Lash WOULDN'T count as a shapeshifter. Changing into something drastically different, and back again. No tech involved. I agree on Ant-man or Atom, that's just size change, and tech aided. Someone like Mr. Fantastic is sorta borderline, but I guess makes sense in a limited capacity. What keeps Lash (or someone like the Hulk, I guess) out of that category? Limited repertoire?
Either way, the ability/genes exist, just limited expression with Lash. I wouldn't think that additional changing ability would be much of a difference from what he can do, to the point where you say it doesn't exist. And with a shapeshifter that doesn't have a personality disorder to boot, you would probably never know anyway. Only if they got caught or decided to play superhero.
Not sure why someone like Lash WOULDN'T count as a shapeshifter. Changing into something drastically different, and back again. No tech involved. I agree on Ant-man or Atom, that's just size change, and tech aided. Someone like Mr. Fantastic is sorta borderline, but I guess makes sense in a limited capacity. What keeps Lash (or someone like the Hulk, I guess) out of that category? Limited repertoire?
Either way, the ability/genes exist, just limited expression with Lash. I wouldn't think that additional changing ability would be much of a difference from what he can do, to the point where you say it doesn't exist. And with a shapeshifter that doesn't have a personality disorder to boot, you would probably never know anyway. Only if they got caught or decided to play superhero.
Pretty much.
I think that card will be played eventually. Full on shapshifting is too cool a power to take off the board.
I've certainly seen shapeshifters with only one alternate form referred to that way. TV Tropes lumps them into their Shapeshifting articles along with everything else. Didn't Peter David or Al Milgrom or somebody explain that the different Hulk variants (Gray, Green, Professor, etc.) were the result of Banner's latent shapeshifting ability interacting with his multiple personality disorder?
Way back when, I came up with a classification system for different types of shapeshifter (or metamorph, as I called them). A Class I metamorph was a "Jekyll/Hyde" type with only one alternate form, e.g. the Wolfman or the Hulk (normally). Class II has a limited number of available alternate forms to choose from, like Dracula (bat, wolf, mist) or Ben 10 in early seasons (though that character didn't exist yet when I came up with this). Class III (here it starts to get a bit arbitrary) has an unlimited number of forms, but all of the same general body shape, e.g. someone who can mimic any human but can't become a nonhumanoid. And Class IV has unlimited forms of unlimited shape. Although looking back at it now, it leaves out a number of options. There should be a class for people like Reed Richards who can only change their body proportions. And maybe there should be distinctions for those who need technological/magical assistance to change rather than having an innate ability, and maybe for voluntary vs. involuntary shapeshifters -- although it seems most involuntary metamorphs are in Class I.
It's a pretty broad category that can get a bit hazy with all the subgroups. Then you have guys like Metamorpho and the Absorbing Man who are shifting their chemical composition.
IIRC, Lincoln said the only reason Lash kept changing was because the terragenesis process wasn't complete yet. In fact once the process was finished he was stuck as Lash permanently. Although I wouldn't be surprised if the writers forgot about this or changed their mind and showed a shapeshifting Inhuman in the future.
Why are we treating Lincoln as if he had perfect unprejudiced knowledge passed down for centuries through a loose knit community?
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